Seyha wrote:

Ronian wrote:And I cant understand why these classes have problems with Rangers. Actually I play many casters and non viper3 stealthers are easy and 1 time viper3 is enough to almost kill for example my theurg. As a Ranger you at least need to do something, like most other tanks. Dont tell me purge (3) because I cant afford it in low rr and purge isnt everytime up^^

1. You can kite assassins.

2. Assassins don't have camouflage.

3. Assassins can not kill at range.

Of course it is possible to most of the time you will have add in emain. On the other hand kiting is more easy with a pet, but you should know that.

There is one item which will help me to kite but my new template isnt finished now.

Ronian wrote:There are too many rangers? Screen made yesterday and no, there werent that many rangers like other realm stealthers:


Seems like these new rangers only make RvR in DF.

Oh yes silly me just because you showed black adders fighting 4 mids at one moment in an 800x500 picture means there aren't any rangers at all, ever, in emain. Like everrrrrrrrr. Let's ignore the fact that everyone avoids fights at amg because of RANGERS only because everyone knows there's sh*tloads of them there all the time.

Kiting a viper3 assasin on uthgard: now that´s a great idea.

Celad wrote:

Artefact wrote:Take care about that the staff know that archery is op

LOL archery is not OP, archery is bugged as hell!!!!
In fact archery has nothing to do with Rangers, 95% of them are full melee.

If the staff nerfed archery because of Rangers there would be no hope for this server.

A decent alternative would be fixing other classes, but that's too much to hope for.

Jarysa wrote:Kiting a viper3 assasin on uthgard: now that´s a great idea.

uhhh, it is if you can see them. I kill Viper 3 assassins all the time. I guess I'm OP.

State of the game atm is still: rangers are somewhat OP in the stealther vs stealther scenario. Now im a NS and im on the "lucky" side fighting with rangers, but i do share the concern with the Mid and Alb stealthers here on Uthgard, in order to stop the influx of bandwagon rangers, and get the sb population back something needs to be done..

What that is i have not researched enough to say with certainty, but heres an idea, remove PD for rangers?.

- my 2 cents.

/Arzu

Well...Me as a warden definetly have no problems killing a ranger in duel. Fighting against a SB/Infi is much harder due to poisons.

Why remove PD for rangers? To me it seems ranger simply is a good class against stealthers and i dont see the problem with that. Is not every class supposed to have a counterpart? Seems like there are so many rangers because they have no chance with other classes against the stealthers. So life with it or try solo with classes good against rangers^^

Nerf all stealth classes -> decimate the stealth zerg.

Enjoy the game.

EDIT: I kinda agree with the previous poster. If you dont like getting your ass handed to you by Rangers, play something else and get your ass handed to you by some other class.

Corrosive wrote:State of the game atm is still: rangers are somewhat OP in the stealther vs stealther scenario. Now im a NS and im on the "lucky" side fighting with rangers, but i do share the concern with the Mid and Alb stealthers here on Uthgard, in order to stop the influx of bandwagon rangers, and get the sb population back something needs to be done..

What that is i have not researched enough to say with certainty, but heres an idea, remove PD for rangers?.

- my 2 cents.

/Arzu

You seem to be a very experienced stealther on uthgard. Actually the best str/con debuff is like pd3 in terms of defense. So plz qq remove it, it is too strong

@tob
Actually there were maybe 3-4 hib stealthers at all. Black adders showed up and ganked everyone and after that someone playing Comet showed up with 3 sbs and 1 hunter to zerg back.

But once again you know better

Stealther QQ, what more does this server even need?

massivmampfer wrote: Seems like there are so many rangers because they have no chance with other classes against the stealthers. So life with it or try solo with classes good against rangers^^

What class is good against a Ranger?

What class is a Ranger weak against?

Keep in mind that Rangers have stealth + camouflage + MoS and therefore do not have to fight most classes in the game if they don't want to.

Ronian wrote:Actually there were maybe 3-4 hib stealthers at all.

ONLY 3-4 ?!?! OMGOSH!! Guess the rest were otw back after releasing

Tobletwo wrote:

Ronian wrote:Actually there were maybe 3-4 hib stealthers at all.

ONLY 3-4 ?!?! OMGOSH!! Guess the rest were otw back after releasing

You do have to admire the reasoning here.

"A group of Black Adders ganked my Ranger. Therefore, the Ranger is balanced."

Seyha wrote:What class is good against a Ranger?

Maybe ask Jig, Stief, Arlen, Bugsy, Skalnora, Sukkles. Just to name a few people managed killing rangers.

Seyha wrote:Keep in mind that Rangers have stealth + camouflage + MoS and therefore do not have to fight most classes in the game if they don't want to.

Hmm, if i remember right every stealther is able to choose his target.