Hi everyone,

I'm sure y'all know that if you have a lvl 50 assassin you can easily use him as an evenombot for whatever char you play in RvR. Even though this might be livelike, it's just as livelike as buffbots. The only difference is that you don't have to dual log to benefit from it. So really, what's the purpose, have everyone level an assassin to start laming about untill staff realises it's only harming RvR?

To be honest it won't take long before there will be more than just 1 player laming about. Ultimately you will NEED to have poisoned weapons just to stand a chance in smallman RvR.


Anyway, can we get a response from the staff on this? Livelike or not, it's basicly a 'legal' buffbot, which imo has no place on Uth.

you do have to dual log as poisons are wiped off the weapons on relog/LD/quit (unless something has changed regarding this lately)

nixian wrote:you do have to dual log as poisons are wiped off the weapons on relog/LD/quit (unless something has changed regarding this lately)

You can probably just use your house to transfer them. In any case, even if you would have to dual log, it's not stopping players from abusing this.

Yeah, there are players that use str/con, snare and poisons in RvR. I mean comon the feature is nice but some non assassins spam more dots than the real ones.

nixian wrote:you do have to dual log as poisons are wiped off the weapons on relog/LD/quit (unless something has changed regarding this lately)

No. I have lots of poisoned weapons and I can use them when ever I want.

It's live-like. The same as auto-train and every other broken feature. As I have been told several times before, "Learn to live with Classic DAoC."

Can you use lifebane on a lowlvlweap and hand it to a Brae-char? That would affecting RvR heavy

This must be changed by the staff, str/con takes way like close to 300 hits, then lifebane atleast 6 ticks a 60dmg, thats over 600 free damage on a class not designed to have it.
For me its KOS on ppl abusing this, they deserves to be added/zerged/laughed/spited/flamed at forums etc. Its no respect for these kids who cant play there class properly and needs to cheat.

The rules dont forbidd it thou so long u use ur house to transfer the poisioned weapons. I suggest a update to the rules so this will be a violation.

Finalement wrote:Can you use lifebane on a lowlvlweap and hand it to a Brae-char? That would affecting RvR heavy

Req for using the poison is the level of the char who poisoned the weapon.
There is also a high variance for chars with no envenom spec.

Seyha wrote:

nixian wrote:you do have to dual log as poisons are wiped off the weapons on relog/LD/quit (unless something has changed regarding this lately)

No. I have lots of poisoned weapons and I can use them when ever I want.

It's live-like. The same as auto-train and every other broken feature. As I have been told several times before, "Learn to live with Classic DAoC."

to my knowledge this was NOT livelike. to make an actual poison go off you had to have the envenom necessary to put the poison there in the first place.

Xantham wrote:to my knowledge this was NOT livelike. to make an actual poison go off you had to have the envenom necessary to put the poison there in the first place.

wrong, on live you can use weapons venomed by someone else, whether you are as assasin or not. Friars and casters could even use a staff with venom on it.

Seems that botting is allowed, just as long as you don't dual log.


A bit dogmatic imo.

Using poisons on non assasins has always been a feature on live, and just removing it because of ban of buffbots/simular use, then youd have to do the same to buffing classes and make all buffs self only, to avoid buffbots, like you want to do with poison bots. Sharing buffs and sharing poisons is a feature and if one is removed, then both should be. Not allowing this feature for poisons, is a benifit to assasins.

I got a question for the assasins. Do you think its not fair to share poisons with others when you have to spec for it? And think carefuly before you answer that.

Eclipsed wrote:Using poisons on non assasins has always been a feature on live, and just removing it because of ban of buffbots/simular use, then youd have to do the same to buffing classes and make all buffs self only, to avoid buffbots, like you want to do with poison bots. Sharing buffs and sharing poisons is a feature and if one is removed, then both should be. Not allowing this feature for poisons, is a benifit to assasins.

I got a question for the assasins. Do you think its not fair to share poisons with others when you have to spec for it? And think carefuly before you answer that.

Yeah but maybe they should fade after logging out so that you cant poison the weapons yourself

@all: I find it quite frustrating that many of you tend to ask for features being wiped out of the game, only because they offer an advantage. Granted, it is and should not be intended that players pre-poison their complete weapon rack, but what at least I would like to see when it comes to such reports - possible player- and feature-friendly proposals like the one Ronian stated.

@Ronian: Interesting solution. Gonna discuss and suggest it as solution within staff-forums.

Sethor wrote:@all: I find it quite frustrating that many of you tend to ask for features being wiped out of the game, only because they offer an advantage. Granted, it is and should not be intended that players pre-poison their complete weapon rack, but what at least I would like to see when it comes to such reports - possible player- and feature-friendly proposals like the one Ronian stated.

@Ronian: Interesting solution. Gonna discuss and suggest it as solution within staff-forums.

We dont ask that this feature is removed but its obvious thats theres a flaw in the rules when a player can stash 38327 swords in his housevault and logg his assasin alt and posion all, then logg his main and use all this posions without even have the assasin logged. If i get posioned from a non assasin thats grouped with an assasin and they used this feature i can live with it, but not when the assasin isnt even in game.

Problem:

Some time before stealther lost their poisons on weapons when they went off.

=> Disadvantage, cause no poisons rdy if y log in.

After change you can use them as dot bot. This isnt a feature. Feature would be minstrel grps with infi and he get for example lifebane. They do RvR together.
Atm some players got a 50er stealther and do the house vault crap...and RvR alone...