Archer Fun Facts: Not a Melee Ranger QQ

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Postby Stressed » May 03, 2010 19:49

Ah thanks Seyha, never thought of that,

I guess they could argue as most ppl do Vip3 is op, I personally find its not very op though against someone who purges, then stuns me (cant use purge didint have enough points after vip3) and then kills me in usually 4-9 swings.

As Im newish to the SB class what Ra can I spec in that will purge the fact Rangers take zero damage almost from my weapons..?

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Postby Ronian » May 03, 2010 20:03

Kills you in 9 hits ? In that time you can redot several times...

EDIT: Viper3 IS OP, because you never thought about redot with every swing, right? Cant believe that ppl still qq about PD. Charge damage add and redot with every swing... And it is the rangers fault that you dont buy purge2+viper2 instead of viper3, right?

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Postby Seyha » May 03, 2010 20:15

Everyone knows Viper is broken Ronia. You can't use it as an excuse to justify your class being stupidly broken as well. Only 3 classes in the game have access to Viper.

Crit Shot the assassin out of stealth for 50% of his HP, then side-stun and style spam him to death. If a blades-spec Shar/Celt can't beat down a half-dead assassin before he gets dotted to death then he is doing something very wrong.
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Postby Stressed » May 03, 2010 20:29

Ronian wrote:Kills you in 9 hits ? In that time you can redot several times...

EDIT: Viper3 IS OP, because you never thought about redot with every swing, right? Cant believe that ppl still qq about PD. Charge damage add and redot with every swing... And it is the rangers fault that you dont buy purge2+viper2 instead of viper3, right?


Sorry I didint mean to QQ, and 9 hits is the max, usually its 4-5. My QQ as you put it was a genuine question as not being a 7 year veteran od camelot I wondered if there is an ra I can take which will purge PD, I figured there must be as theres one you can tkae which purges vip...?? Sorry If it was a dumb question somehow..

and on you rother point I did have vip2 and purge 2 but even using my 5 weapons and redotting the dmg seemed alot greater from rangers swings than my poison....

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Postby Ronian » May 03, 2010 20:35

Nobody purges dot, blade spec rangers maybe purge str/con charge to do the max damage. You could go for toughness to raise your hitpoints (defense). Fights vs assassins are very luck based. If a SB evades 3 or more mainhand hits the ranger has a problem because he relies on melee damage (and procs).

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Postby Madro » May 03, 2010 20:47

Ronian wrote:
EDIT: Viper3 IS OP


QQ from a Ranger.... :lol: :lol:

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Postby vangonaj » May 03, 2010 20:50

Stressed wrote:Sorry I didint mean to QQ, and 9 hits is the max, usually its 4-5.


You die in 4-5 hits max 9? Your problem isnt pd, your problem are your resists.

And Roni is right if assasin evade 2-3 hits (happens a lot), and he has ip down, is big problem for ranger. Vs melee ranger you must know use evade stun. Most of melee rangers use purge for st/con dot. If you stun ranger, you will win.
But you will have problems if rager has ip2, purge and rr5 up. Or you are lucky, or you will die :grin: Are you agree with mi Roni? :D
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Postby Ronian » May 03, 2010 21:09

vangonaj wrote:
Stressed wrote:Sorry I didint mean to QQ, and 9 hits is the max, usually its 4-5.


You die in 4-5 hits max 9? Your problem isnt pd, your problem are your resists.

And Roni is right if assasin evade 2-3 hits (happens a lot), and he has ip down, is big problem for ranger. Vs melee ranger you must know use evade stun. Most of melee rangers use purge for st/con dot. If you stun ranger, you will win.
But you will have problems if rager has ip2, purge and rr5 up. Or you are lucky, or you will die :grin: Are you agree with mi Roni? :D


I agree. On the other hand some ppl have problems to understand the setup. I dont cry about my damage on paladins because I am aware of the armor tables...

@Madro
I have caster classes too. My animist has really problems (non camper) with stupid purge3 noob sbs that purge every ******. So I like the viper3 ones more but they come re with adders like seyha to help them.

On the other hand I have a non lifetap caster too and viper 3 means most of the time death. Usually they dont even need PA or BS opening normal taunt plus viper3 makes enough damage oo

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Postby Night » May 03, 2010 21:49

simply a mincer like baman wins with dottet weapons without viper vs rangers

i think all dots are a bit to high here or ticking too long

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Postby vangonaj » May 03, 2010 21:51

Night wrote:simply a mincer like baman wins with dottet weapons without viper vs rangers

i think all dots are a bit to high here or ticking too long


Dot damage is ok. The problem is viper3, we miss toa bonuses for this ra.
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Postby Ronian » May 03, 2010 22:01

Night wrote:simply a mincer like baman wins with dottet weapons without viper vs rangers

i think all dots are a bit to high here or ticking too long


The problem is that mincer makes magic damage and 4 dds = 800 damage.

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Postby Madro » May 03, 2010 22:04

@ Ronia: In my opinon a caster don´t have to win against a solo steahlt.

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Postby Astealoth » May 03, 2010 23:29

i did specifically say in the title of this thread that it wasnt a ranger QQ thread. plenty of other threads for that pls. stop the tears now pls.

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Postby Seyha » May 03, 2010 23:33

What is this thread about again?
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Postby Celad » May 05, 2010 12:47

vangonaj wrote:if assasin evade 2-3 hits (happens a lot)


This morning an infi evades me 11 times consequently. He was 49 and 3L, i'm 50 and 6L full buffed. He was 50% hp because i shot him two times before he come melee. Obviously he win (11 times on 12 swing).
GM says to me "chances ar chances".
And he was strafing like hell, but never miss me.

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