Some stealthers i talked to are so called DF chars, that means that they only rvr in DF. I understand why ppl only rvr in DF, OF is zergy or empty and theres no support ever for solo play, even worse now with some staff custom "fixes".

The trick is that you logg in your df-char when DF belongs to enemy realm, u do so much havoc u can do without drawing to much attention, in this way you can get 4-5k rps then u have to logg bcs of the heat. Then u logg on ur main char and do what u do to come back later on and repeat. Ofc u take advantage when ur own realm takes DF and take part of the cleansing.

What i wanna know is how many so called DF-chars there are and if more ppl planning on retire there stealthers to this use, mainly bcs of the lack of good solo action in OF and repeated nerfs to the soloers.

So whats my point?
If my suspicion are correct and many chars only do rvr in DF something is really wrong. My point then is to show the staff and the community that something has to be done with the solo rvr. When i played live on exc/pryd the solo rvr was awsum, 90% of all stealthers there was solo, here is 90% grouped or in zergs. If u wanted visible solo rvr there was plenty of spots with real good solo action. The community also respected soloers more, groups let them be and adding was a uncommon thing.

I hope this wont be another nerf rangers flame, so pls no "rangers are to op, i cant solo" comments.

I'm currently using DF to get my BM some decent RR (charge 2 det4 lw1 as a start). The truth is that there just is no casual RvR in OF, no viable and reliable version of it anyway.

This makes DF the only place for such playstyles after the BGs.



It will stay like this as long as there are no serious changes in the setting we currently have.

Now i dont know. Me and the GF do nice 2person action in emain, and see loads of solos around all the time. Dont listen to Zarkor, hes uthbitter, thats just it.

Corwinn wrote:Now i dont know. Me and the GF do nice 2person action in emain, and see loads of solos around all the time. Dont listen to Zarkor, hes uthbitter, thats just it.

2person action in emain... either that's off-peak hours or you're stealthers.

DF PvP since three weeks now

I practically live in DF because as an RvR zone it is vastly superior to anything in OF. It really is a great design if you think about it. Lots of ambush spots. Lots of twisting corridors and side-passages to hide in. Dangerous mobs that can ruin your day or be used to your advantage.

And unlike OF you don't have to worry about an FG charging through the mile-gate to stomp on your fun. Well, not as much anyway.

DF is the real solo paradise.

I have few friends who mostly do their rps in DF and the main reason is that it's hard as hell to fight other stealthers in emain even 1vs1 until u are rr5.

You can Solo, hope to see you again in Odins.

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Einzel

Ya lately I've been spending more time in DF with my Ranger , then in OF. I just find OF boring and unintresting. Just the same old same old. Run to AMG and wait for kills and to be killed, really not much else then that. I like RvR where you have diffrent senerios, from keeps, diffrent areas on the map, objects in the map like walls and so on. But since most action in OF is very predictable, you only need to wait at the gates, but the draw back is everyone knows this, making it difficult for soloers.

And the keeps are not very intresting, and get taken too quick to react, unless its a relic. I find myself getting a little bored out there in OF, so i spend some time in DF on my side of DF watching for gray gankers and other enemys who come to my side, nothing more rewarding then defending agenst gray gankers lol. I wish they would make OF more intresting, or go back to NF.

Jonah, u just search for more victims i guess.

sure u do - u play a ranger.

Methusalem wrote:Jonah, u just search for more victims i guess.

sure u do - u play a ranger.

Someone pls deal with this troll.

I use my infi only in exact the way u describe first, jonah: only for df and for short visits, if nothing else going on. Cause on the one hand -for me- solo infi sucks atm in emain ( no speed !!!!!!, mainly enemies are 2+ gankers, amg looks boring after few hours, and well.. no speed ;D), and on the other hand i have my mincer to play solo mainly in emain and sometimes in odins.
@nayru
At this point i want to say something about the removed solo-kill-tasks: in my opinion there is also an influence in rvr participation caused by the solo tasks.. for example for people, who cant find a grp or others to join (of course this not happens at prime time very often)... in this case they can get a solo task and are directly motivated to find 5 enemies. Okok, lets say it does not happen very often. But at least u cant really say, that the grp missions have any stronger effect for grp players. Now, cause of the timer change, its just an rp booster for all the strong high rr sg/guildgrps from each realm, cause for random grps i really have daubts, that they would feel any positive effect by this. For solo player, and i ever played mostly solo, it isnt that easy to get many weeksrps in these days.. sure 200k and maybe bit more is possible. But this is nothing for one of those experienced grp players. So finally.. with the remove of the solokilltasks the gap between the solo-player-weekrps and the grp-player-weekrps will just rise more. Why just let the solokilltasks stay with 30 min timer?? I dont think any of the grp players would get angry about and see it as an unfair rp booster for solo chars.
Off-topic? no way

@Jonah in my case, i just have to many chars to play.So one is for df, even if u cant compare the fun by killing xpers with the fun by killing bard/champ duos with a small minstrel.


greez elrill

Strange, maybe some people of you now understand why mythic brought NF.
We had that discussion already, 7-8? years ago.

Maybe you get of your OF-fanatic bandwagon now and remember all those horrible times we had with big zergs, camping milegates etc.
But humans prefer memorys of good events. They just have a couple of awesome fights in mind when they think about OF, forgotten all those hours of wiping at the milegate or searching for a group, get bombed through walls (rofl) or realizing that they leveled 3-6 months a charachter that isnt wanted in any RvR group. NF changed ALL of that.

Maybe its time to reroll this Server to NF ? this old keeps suck as hell too.
If we had another place where people could get rps or do solo stuff. Maybe we could get exp again as lvl35+ toon in DF, because atm its senseless to even step inside DF at 35, making it horrible hard to get a toon to 50 and earn money.

Tirax wrote:Maybe we could get exp again as lvl35+ toon in DF, because atm its senseless to even step inside DF at 35, making it horrible hard to get a toon to 50 and earn money.

It's fascinating how the (casual) end RvR action is shifting towards DF and almost DF only. Each time I see DF opening in Hib, pretty much everyone around that's interested in RvR starts heading to the entrance. I've recently leveled a new char to 50 and I must admit DF is the only place I can really enjoy RvRing with it whenever I don't find a spot in a decent FG. I don't think I've known end RvR to be so unattractive as it is now.

I'm assured it's absolutely possible to fix the situation with OF still in place. However some vital adjustments will have to be made. I've been advocating changes to resurrect casual RvR for a while now, I just hope staff will start realising the need for a solution soon.



PS: The removal of the solo kill-task only enforced lvl 50 casual or solo players to abandon OF and pick DF as their main hunting ground. Things are only going to get worse from this point on...

Tirax wrote:Maybe its time to reroll this Server to NF ? this old keeps suck as hell too.
If we had another place where people could get rps or do solo stuff. Maybe we could get exp again as lvl35+ toon in DF, because atm its senseless to even step inside DF at 35, making it horrible hard to get a toon to 50 and earn money.

I haveto agree on most points you stated here. DF has become a hellish place to lvl, so much that people don't even find it attractive anymore when it opens. I haveto agree on of keeps being inferior to nf keeps aswell. It's sad to admit, but i haveto say i'm starting to miss good old agra, tough i don't know if it's due to an incomplete OF implementation or not.