Zarkor wrote:Yea and it's not exactly bringing us in the right direction is it. ^^

Exactly.

Sure its easier being stupid and admitting it.

It takes guts to change.

Tirax wrote:

Foneb wrote:-Bm does less dmg then the other charge tanks.

Why do they lower dmg than mercs? maybe because you are all playing celt slashing bms with 39 Weaponskill and your maintargets (healer shamans) are slash resistent?

Try a blunt firbolg or celt pierce, go for 50 Weaponskill and click on your funni triple wield button. And you see how you outdamage every merc out there by far..... ahh they have also more defence than mercs.

Nerf BMs plz.

do you play a BM? I do. I spec'd 42 shield then switched to 50/50 and I do not see a big difference in dmg at all. BTW im a firby with 15 str 10 qui at creation, 2050 WS. And BM dmg is just bad. I'm not a noob who uses squall, i pretty much rarely use it.


doing 130-150 mainhand on a cleric (slash neutral) or healer (slash resistant) with backblack chain (.75 and .9 gr) is a regular when their BOF isnt up. On my druid I usually see zerkers who use hammer against my scale doing 170-250...and this is WITH AF CHARGE. Dont forget their offhand hits evertime for the same if not more dmg then i notice on my BM. Add celerity + zerk mode and this makes the bm dmg look like absolute crap head to head. Maybe If i switch to 50CD/44slash/44pierce this might change!! and my bm might be worth playing again.

It is very disheartening to see zerkers charge + vendo on ur casters on inc and 2-3 shot them. This is not an exageration at all, if you think it is you have not played here. BTW tripple wield sucks lol...WOW 15 MORE DMG PER WEAPON!!! thats like as good as theurg dmg add! wow!

I don't think bms do incredibly less dmg than mercs, they still do less in my opinion. But Mercs do have the advantage of having theurg pets on the enemies support so nearly constant interuption. Hibs do lack the interupts of albs, so their damage seems to suck even more. Thats why hibs have gone to nearly all caster groups so they have some sort of burst dmg that can kill overextending tanks before they can get any sort of heals.

1+ with * for panche thats excatly how i feel too

oh a DWARF zerker just hit me for 279 mainhand + 50 crit and 111 offhand +40 crit without zerk mode with celerity and without AOTG. I had AF charge on with like 670 AF. So PLEASE dont give that bullsh*t reason "oh hibs just roll noob celts!".

thisi, a warrior, just hit our caster for about 650 dmg..a hero only dreams of this dmg.
another caster got 2 shot by a savage.

this was all without AOTG

please justify this GMs
and nerf charge already