I am quite satisfied with the balance in 8vs8 atm (yeye says the op mid, i know). The last patches helped casters a lot (and they really needed it), therefore helped the hib and albs more than mids (mids tend to run more melee setups).

Had really nice 8vs8 fights the last week, or 8vs16 low rr grp fights. The hib grps are way more challenging than they used to be for months.

Only thing uthgard could improve is the time the action starts... from 19 'till 21 p.m. german time there is seldom more than 1-2 fgs out, and often not even 1 fg albs or hibs

holsten-knight wrote:I am quite satisfied with the balance in 8vs8 atm (yeye says the op mid, i know). The last patches helped casters a lot (and they really needed it), therefore helped the hib and albs more than mids (mids tend to run more melee setups).

Had really nice 8vs8 fights the last week, or 8vs16 low rr grp fights. The hib grps are way more challenging than they used to be for months.

Only thing uthgard could improve is the time the action starts... from 19 'till 21 p.m. german time there is seldom more than 1-2 fgs out, and often not even 1 fg albs or hibs

Sure, spellcasters got a little well deserved love, but that still doesn't change the fundamental balance issues.

Braxis is in fact one of the few who actually gets my point. (cheers )

but i don't see any fundamental balance issues anymore.

Yesterday we had any sort of fight, fights we won with ease (owed to the enemys playing really bad), close fights we barely won, fights we lost ('cause we played bad), against both realms. Thats how it should be in my opinion.

I agree it seemed to be inbalanced for quite a while, against hibs it was too easy, close fights were rare. But i can't see this anymore. I don't know exactly why it changed (patches or player's), but it changed

holsten-knight wrote:but i don't see any fundamental balance issues anymore.

Yesterday we had any sort of fight, fights we won with ease (owed to the enemys playing really bad), close fights we barely won, fights we lost ('cause we played bad), against both realms. Thats how it should be in my oppinion.

I agree it seemed to be inbalanced for quite a while, against hibs it was too easy, close fights were rare. But i can't see this anymore. I don't know exactly why it changed (patche's or player's), but it changed

It changed (IMO) because in recent months we've had several new RvR oriented guilds move to Hib. No only did they add more RvRers to the Hib side but they took away some for Mid and to a lesser extent from Alb.

An example is Cobra Kai who used to be Team Awesome on Mid. and no, I'm not in CK. I'm McGill in Awakening.

charge is still a bit strong

holsten-knight wrote:but i don't see any fundamental balance issues anymore.

Yesterday we had any sort of fight, fights we won with ease (owed to the enemys playing really bad), close fights we barely won, fights we lost ('cause we played bad), against both realms. Thats how it should be in my oppinion.

I agree it seemed to be inbalanced for quite a while, against hibs it was too easy, close fights were rare. But i can't see this anymore. I don't know exactly why it changed (patche's or player's), but it changed

Play a Hib caster and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Hibs have mainly gotten tougher through better groups and relics, only slightly through improved balance (resist rate fix). New RAs still cause for the majority of the imbalances, which are mainly in Mid's favor.

holsten-knight wrote:but i don't see any fundamental balance issues anymore.

That's because you lack common sense and you're stuck playing only 1 realm/1 class.

Gil wrote:It changed (IMO) because in recent months we've had several new RvR oriented guilds move to Hib. No only did they add more RvRers to the Hib side but they took away some for Mid and to a lesser extent from Alb.

An example is Cobra Kai who used to be Team Awesome on Mid. and no, I'm not in CK. I'm McGill in Awakening.

This has got NOTHING to do with the actual balance relations mate.

I agree charge is too strong, and other minor imbalances... but that is nothing fundamental, as long as it is possible for a caster grp to win against a melee charge grp. And such imbalances have existed in daoc at all patchlevels.

And @ tobleboy: i got enough common sense to mock your argumentation of "look at lwrp, mid is soo op" of the last month's. I did and do not see any common sense in putting lwrp in relation to game balance

lwrp is more an indication of the nerd lvl of players and realms

holsten-knight wrote:

And @ tobleboy: i got enough common sense to mock your argumentation of "look at lwrp, mid is soo op" of the last month's. I did and do not see any common sense in putting lwrp in relation to game balance

lwrp is more an indication of the nerd lvl of players and realms

LWRP only shows that albs and hibs only do pve. If 1 day ill see any mentalist with 300k rps. Is mentalist op? Or pala, merc...

its more like mentha plays 25/8

holsten-knight wrote:i got enough common sense to mock your argumentation of "look at lwrp, mid is soo op" of the last month's. I did and do not see any common sense in putting lwrp in relation to game balance

But you don't have the common sense to read and understand that post which was referring to the number of player/realm in rvr type balance, not overall midgard easymode. Sure, easymode helps too, just look at you guys

Akip wrote:its more like mentha plays 25/8

correct thats mentha


how many post btw u wanna create guys

the real problem is hibernia got the most crap players
and crap players dont find any fights or incoming cuz the other realms dont come out more in like Pug/Solo/Small man RvR

how u get ur RR u do it on Pug RvR/Small man RvR that not exist more

u see a hand of players most of the time same ones that doing Lv.50 RvR here ofc high RR

most the People reroll or leave and never reach rr6..

@Zarkor BM is crap but why u reroll after u left another one self fail?

http://herald.uthgard-server.net/herald ... lass&p6=43

no1 plays a gimped bm more =)

and topics here are useless too cuz its always toblerone with a big mouth that can explain everything right

i am wondering why u guys all left hibernia when its not truth in any kind

People wont come to Hadrians
OG sometimes

rvr sucks like hell now like the most people here and thats the problem

accept this and live with this
otherwise leave or take a break

for me after i reached rr8 i can now understand the fun of Battlegrounds..
u dont need to xp alot to make RvR
its perfect unbalanced that suits to Uhtgard
and u have alot of fun there with not ignorant people like the most Lv50

to reroll the Ranger Mania and be like the others to hide myself from RvR is just another way of lame'ness

Btw Have Fun Guys

omg traf wie du schreibst ;F

Melodexx wrote:@Zarkor BM is crap but why u reroll after u left another one self fail?

BMs are only crap if you play them crap.

For the rest of your post.. whatever lol I'm not even going to start.