So since we are talking about ovped Albs, i have to rember you guys about some facts you all seem to forgot.
Albs have to group sorc, cleric, cleric, pally, ministrel. Thats 5 characters, that don't deal any considerable dmg, 1 squishy caster for cc, the worst blockbot available, and only 1 intteruptbot you can Count on.

You guys also Know we need casters like theurgs/ cabbys to Interrupt and you all also know casters suck on Uthgard right?
Meanwhile hibs just Need thier Basic Support, are free to group det5 fulltank that also do some damage. You guys argumet like Albs are playing with cabby, ministrel, theurg, cleric, cleric, pally,sorc and 2-3 mercs?
And stop telling us BMs do no dmg.
They do almost the same like mercs do. They are infact Superior to mercs in style utillity, tripple wield, rr5. You comparing Low-er Celtic Blade BMs with 42 shields that hit slashresistent Healers with some random high-ranked merc/zerker Troll/Ogre that hits on slash vulnerable druids. Of corse your BMs suck, Play firbolg crush or celt Pierce, Go for 50 in weapon and then Compare again.

And don't tell us to play without a ministrel,
they in fact more Important than cabby or theurg.

In my opinion paladin is the best bodyguard in the 3 kingdomds, followed by warrior and hero.
If you have to use 1 slot to bodyguard, what is better than gaining a free group-chant af shield stacking with cleric spec shield?
Also, you will have endurance till the bodyguard dies, that's pretty harder than bard or shaman^

wahah?

Spec shield+ Armorfactor Chant dont stack and the point that Paladin has endu chant doesnt make him a better, but a worse guardbot, as he has to serve endu to the tanks which happen to push alot and guard the casters which happen to kite alot when AT on em, sadly 1500 range of endu chant are often not enough there.

Demiurgo wrote:In my opinion paladin is the best bodyguard in the 3 kingdomds, followed by warrior and hero.
If you have to use 1 slot to bodyguard, what is better than gaining a free group-chant af shield stacking with cleric spec shield?
Also, you will have endurance till the bodyguard dies, that's pretty harder than bard or shaman^

The chant does not stack with cleric spec AF. Regarding of having their own endurance chant, with chant twisting a palading goes ooe faster than other tanks do.

Having played all 3 on uthgard, paladin is the worst by far. Could have been better if 2h damage wasn't nerfed and if chants didn't suck endurance like mad.

Loool you are kidding right? Thats just joke PLZ ?
Ok you seem to be new to daoc and i try to help new People.
I give you Hmm Let's say 5 reason Why pally is by Fat the worst blockbot ever. We just Need him for end.

1. There is no spec-af shield from cleric because we havnt enough buffs with just 2 cleric or do we already Play 10slot? Anyway we have poitions for that.

2. Heroes and warriors have Det/stoicsm.

3. Pally endurance has crap range.

4. Heroes/warriors have good realmabillities like soldiers, DD, rr5.

5. They can do Damage, ok 2h is bugged maybe but They still do the damage of 3 pallys.

6. Pallys have lower dex because its not raising stat.

This are those guys saying theurgs are awesome on uthgard, pallys the Best blockpet and BMs do no damage.
No one would ever take a pally if they hadnt the endurance chant.
But hibs/mids always have to take shamans and bards.

Demiurgo wrote:In my opinion paladin is the best bodyguard in the 3 kingdomds, followed by warrior and hero.
If you have to use 1 slot to bodyguard, what is better than gaining a free group-chant af shield stacking with cleric spec shield?
Also, you will have endurance till the bodyguard dies, that's pretty harder than bard or shaman^

Nice one, three sentences and not a word of truth ^^

Cant w8 to see the guard fix, had enough of those paladins guarding theurgs and 3 dual wielders cant hit the theurg because their WS doesnt lower guard .

And 2h dmg is fine, stop acusing what you dont know.

Glacius wrote:Stop acusing what you dont know.

Maybe you should have a taste of your own medicine then.

lol just lol

Zarkor wrote:

Glacius wrote:Stop acusing what you dont know.

Maybe you should have a taste of your own medicine then.

About? at least i speced war and skald 2h and went live and checked their dmg then check it out on uthg, 5 dmg difference . and wow ..2h dmg is gimp

Glacius wrote:Cant w8 to see the guard fix, had enough of those paladins guarding theurgs and 3 dual wielders cant hit the theurg because their WS doesnt lower guard .

And 2h dmg is fine, stop acusing what you dont know.

every time i been guarding some1 on my luri hero, zerkers hit right through it, and think my hero has like 350 dex and mob 3...

Glacius wrote:Cant w8 to see the guard fix, had enough of those paladins guarding theurgs and 3 dual wielders cant hit the theurg because their WS doesnt lower guard .

Learned a lot of thing in this topic. So all theurgists have PD5, perma bof3, spec AF stacking with pala AF and perma guard with 100% blockrate ^^

Hedra wrote:

Glacius wrote:Cant w8 to see the guard fix, had enough of those paladins guarding theurgs and 3 dual wielders cant hit the theurg because their WS doesnt lower guard .

Learned a lot of thing in this topic. So all theurgists have PD5, perma bof3, spec AF stacking with pala AF and perma guard with 100% blockrate ^^

So stick around more ) . Its not guarded with 100% block but atm only the DW reduces their block and sometimes i do got blocked consecutively on 3 swings while my WS should've lower it also ..take this example from live tests:

- arms 50 thrust spec highlander race WS 1068, 200 str and 150 dext VS heretic 306 dext , 50 shield spec = 51.83% block.
- arms 50 thrust spec, 1809 WS ,381 str,336 dext VS same heretic = 32.09% block
It's a diff no?:)

Hedra wrote:

Glacius wrote:Cant w8 to see the guard fix, had enough of those paladins guarding theurgs and 3 dual wielders cant hit the theurg because their WS doesnt lower guard .

Learned a lot of thing in this topic. So all theurgists have PD5, perma bof3, spec AF stacking with pala AF and perma guard with 100% blockrate ^^

dont forget the 10Slot Group of 2 clerics 1 friar, theurg, cabby, pally, sorc, ministrel, 2 mercs.

and 2 mercs outdamage 3 bms.