Glacius... this is not about ego... the facts are the facts. Take a moment to go over this excerpt from Seyha's posting. Process it. Be enlightened.

Seyha wrote: We have patch notes that say Rapid Fire uses "normal endurance," and we have patch notes that say Rapid Fire 2 "takes less endurance" than Rapid Fire 1.

Is it really worth the time, energy, and bad feelings to argue over a few extra shots ? (which, keep in mind, will be at reduced damage due to release time)

Silverleaf wrote:Glacius... this is not about ego... the facts are the facts. Take a moment to go over this excerpt from Seyha's posting. Process it. Be enlightened.

Seyha wrote: We have patch notes that say Rapid Fire uses "normal endurance," and we have patch notes that say Rapid Fire 2 "takes less endurance" than Rapid Fire 1.

Is it really worth the time, energy, and bad feelings to argue over a few extra shots ? (which, keep in mind, will be at reduced damage due to release time)

It's not ego, its about implementing an ability how it should be not how archer whiners want it.

Rapid Fire

The three Archers now also receive a new ability called "Rapid Fire", which allows them to release their bow shot before the normal bow timer. Here's the details:

- When an Archer has this skill, at any time after halfway through their normal bow timer they can release the shot.

- If you release the shot 75% through the normal timer, the shot (if it hits) does 75% of its normal damage. If you release 50% through the timer, you do 50% of the damage, and so forth - The faster the shot, the less damage it does.


- Rapid Fire shots takes the same endurance as a normal bow shot, but do less damage.

- Archers receive Rapid Fire 1 at 35 specialization level in their particular bow skill, and Rapid Fire 2 at spec level 45. The difference between the two is how much endurance they take - RF 2 takes less endurance than RF 1.


- Please note that you cannot use Rapid Fire with Longshot or Volley.

If you will have Rapid fire 1 at same end cost with normal shot , rapid fire 2 will use less end which means rapid fire2 will use less end then a normal shot and..CONTRADICTION ! " Rapid Fire shots takes the same endurance as a normal bow shot, but do less damage." plus that you will have a rapid fire2 that will use less end and will cause less dmg , where is the drawback ?! Because thats what rapid fire2 is all about, its a shot that allows you to release your arrow faster during ur drawtime but the end consumption is the same , what u want is absurde because that way rapid fire2 will hit faster and will cost less end then a normal shot= no drawback , thats why u need rapid fire2 = normal shot end consumption and rapid fire1 higher end consumption because u r speced lower in bow.

glacius what are you on about?

Rapid Fire 1 also known as Rapid Fire and then Rapid Fire 2 just uses less endurance...

says it in the patch notes, says it in every archer guide from that time period and from everyones memory...

Neju wrote:
Rapid Fire 1 also known as Rapid Fire and then Rapid Fire 2 just uses less endurance...

says it in the patch notes, says it in every archer guide from that time period and from everyones memory...

ooh the memories..with memories i couldnt change a thing here, i needed solid proofs just so you know.

Neju wrote:glacius what are you on about?

I saw a blonde chick today..oh man she had an ass... mmmmmmm

see you're not answering the point about the patch notes

it's probably a language thing, it's not worded great by mythic.. but as a native speaker it's obvious what they mean

ooooooooooooookay

So, Blue, do you need more information or is this sufficient to change the endu rates for Rapid Fire?

Neju wrote:see you're not answering the point about the patch notes

it's probably a language thing, it's not worded great by mythic.. but as a native speaker it's obvious what they mean

Are you kidding me? i think i ve explained so far in 10 posts if not more that you understand what u want , and what is to your advantage . It's probably archer QQ style who wants to shot faster and with less end then normal shot when using rf2.

So you're basically just trolling at this point?

oh mighty motaro.. what do you think rf2 does then?

What people forget is that RF2 is a 45 bow spec, and the cost to get that high in bow is great. If someone plays an archer they alrdy know this.

Glacius its a waste of time trying to speak with you. You bring absolutely nothing to the table in this conversation except blind ignorance.



@Seyha Haha! funny avatar, that made my day.

Glacius wrote:

blackitalian wrote:hu? if it says rapid fire takes same endurance as normal shot then why does it use twice as much on uth? and of course rf2 would use less as it states. where is the contradiction? i don't see where it says rf uses twice as much endurance.

It says rapid fire ..not rapid fire1 , nor rapid fire 2..that has same end cost as a normal shot, or u ppl are blind? So u dont know which one could be..and it says that rf 2 takes less end then rf1 after that. I can say rf 2 has normal end cost, that means rf1 shoul have higher end cost then normal shot right?

PS: I dont think rapid fire 2 would cost less end then normal shot because ppl would use rapid fire2 only then and forget normal shot, the great advantage of rapid fire is beeing able to shot arrows at 50% drawtime or 75% drawtime , and if u want same end cost as a normal shot for it you have to spec higher bow to have rapid fire 2.

no i'm not blind stop being a jerk. i just didn't see where it says it would cost twice as much endurance or if this was a errr.. custom? random guess for the fun of it? why does it cost twice as much endurance? based on what is there a penalty? that's what i wanted to know. clearly it say cost the same (without mentioning which one) but no where does it say cost more. why do penalties not need proof? i.e. this is taxation without representation!

also are you the staff member in charge of making archer changes? why are you saying things like I DON"T THINK rapid fire 2...." it's not supposed to be about what we THINK but what the FACTS are. and the FACT is there is NOTHING to show that there should be an endurance penalty. and since we are talking about "what we think", i think half damage = half endurance, but then it don't matter what I THINK....

edit: after reading more of your posts it's more than clear that English isn't your native language. how can you argue intent in some thing written in another language when you don't fully understand that language. English class ftw.

blackitalian wrote:

Glacius wrote:

blackitalian wrote:hu? if it says rapid fire takes same endurance as normal shot then why does it use twice as much on uth? and of course rf2 would use less as it states. where is the contradiction? i don't see where it says rf uses twice as much endurance.

It says rapid fire ..not rapid fire1 , nor rapid fire 2..that has same end cost as a normal shot, or u ppl are blind? So u dont know which one could be..and it says that rf 2 takes less end then rf1 after that. I can say rf 2 has normal end cost, that means rf1 shoul have higher end cost then normal shot right?

PS: I dont think rapid fire 2 would cost less end then normal shot because ppl would use rapid fire2 only then and forget normal shot, the great advantage of rapid fire is beeing able to shot arrows at 50% drawtime or 75% drawtime , and if u want same end cost as a normal shot for it you have to spec higher bow to have rapid fire 2.

no i'm not blind stop being a jerk. i just didn't see where it says it would cost twice as much endurance or if this was a errr.. custom? random guess for the fun of it? why does it cost twice as much endurance? based on what is there a penalty? that's what i wanted to know. clearly it say cost the same (without mentioning which one) but no where does it say cost more. why do penalties not need proof? i.e. this is taxation without representation!

also are you the staff member in charge of making archer changes? why are you saying things like I DON"T THINK rapid fire 2...." it's not supposed to be about what we THINK but what the FACTS are. and the FACT is there is NOTHING to show that there should be an endurance penalty. and since we are talking about "what we think", i think half damage = half endurance, but then it don't matter what I THINK....

edit: after reading more of your posts it's more than clear that English isn't your native language. how can you argue intent in some thing written in another language when you don't fully understand that language. English class ftw.

"Rapid Fire shots takes the same endurance as a normal bow shot, but do less damage. "
Thats your penality=same end ,lower dmg

Yep same endurence, at the cost of dmg compared to endurence use. But not overal DPS, as dps stays the same. That is the penalty, where before it was incurrect and cost 2x end cost making it cost twice the endurece for half the damage. All this has been proven incurrect and now is fixed. Why is this still in discussion.

Eclipsed wrote:Yep same endurence, at the cost of dmg compared to endurence use. But not overal DPS, as dps stays the same. That is the penalty, where before it was incurrect and cost 2x end cost making it cost twice the endurece for half the damage. All this has been proven incurrect and now is fixed. Why is this still in discussion.

Cause we got notin else to do..