@ baww waaw
I was checking style dmg there , and indeed it was the same, i havent done tests to see if base dmg remained or modified from one spec to another at that time , now i did . When i had merc i was 50 dw 50 crush , i had stun second after anytimer so why taking slam ?


@ Brooms : There must be another diference..higher RR between you 2 ...you r caped on skills he s not..etc .

Ronian wrote:@toblerone
Hum you qq a little bit too much. Like I said I played often 8v8 in old daoc days, why the hell does a Theurg need a spec nuke in the earth line? That isnt livelike like classic daoc and would be op there. 50 earth no need other lines

Ranger outdamaging hero in melee isn't livelike either, but I don't hear you complaining about it's livelikeness

But I understand your biased point of view for many people think that way. Most people don't want other classes improved other than their own. Selfishness over balance ^^

Rangers outdmg ed BM ..hell even NS outdmg ed Bm s ) assasin's haven .

Toblerone wrote:But I understand your biased point of view for many people think that way. Most people don't want other classes improved other than their own. Selfishness over balance ^^

Not true,me for instant apart from charge related bugs VS some abilities i havent asked anything for bersy ) .

What more could you ask for. You have NF charge, stick and doublefrost. It's enough for your kind.

And you try to get every class that kills you in a 1v1 nerfed, the worst kind of childish biased behaviour ^^

Glacius wrote:Not true,me for instant apart from charge related bugs VS some abilities i havent asked anything for bersy ) .

ye i saw your bug posts about aurora borealis and zerker rr5....

Neju wrote:

Glacius wrote:Not true,me for instant apart from charge related bugs VS some abilities i havent asked anything for bersy ) .

ye i saw your bug posts about aurora borealis and zerker rr5....

I cant post something about what i dont know .

Toblerone wrote:What more could you ask for. You have NF charge, stick and doublefrost. It's enough for your kind.

And you try to get every class that kills you in a 1v1 nerfed, the worst kind of childish biased behaviour ^^

Bm ,merc have charge and stic kalso..doublefrost eats too much end .. .. and..if lurikeen ns doing 188 dmg with a 0.75% growth style while celt bm does 160 with a 0.60 growth style seems oke to you , i give up.

Toblerone wrote:

Ronian wrote:@toblerone
Hum you qq a little bit too much. Like I said I played often 8v8 in old daoc days, why the hell does a Theurg need a spec nuke in the earth line? That isnt livelike like classic daoc and would be op there. 50 earth no need other lines

Ranger outdamaging hero in melee isn't livelike either, but I don't hear you complaining about it's livelikeness

But I understand your biased point of view for many people think that way. Most people don't want other classes improved other than their own. Selfishness over balance ^^

Ok, my classes Theurg, Cabby, Animist, Ranger. So now I have 1 class that is unplayable and 1 that has many bugs. And those are the Hib ones. Cabby is fine and I think lifetap spam pet is still bugged but the Albs say that works correct:roll:

Theurg has some bugs. But he got powerpool fix and mages in general got the fix of after rupt timer. which was essential for playing them.


You play Ranger right?

Nope. Stealthers are lame and their gameplay doesn't not appeal to me ^^

IMO a BM will do better dmg specced 40 blades, 40 pierce, 50 CD, 11 parry, and only using CD styles. Youll be using two blade weapons against mid studded/leather, or alb plate/leather, and pierce main, blade offhand against mid chain, alb chain/studded. If you only use CD styles your damage will not suffer at all, neither base nor style, but you'll always have a 10% bonus against mid on your mainhand, and most your targets in alb will have a 10% bonus. Compare that to losing 10% against mid chain if you just go blades, or being neutral to alb chain. If BMs specced for 2H, they would not be losing 10% dmg by going 40 spec, having your base weapon at 40 and using CD styles, the only difference you are going to see is that between the styles of CD and blades.

Force wrote:IMO a BM will do better dmg specced 40 blades, 40 pierce, 50 CD, 11 parry, and only using CD styles. Youll be using two blade weapons against mid studded/leather, or alb plate/leather, and pierce main, blade offhand against mid chain, alb chain/studded. If you only use CD styles your damage will not suffer at all, neither base nor style, but you'll always have a 10% bonus against mid on your mainhand, and most your targets in alb will have a 10% bonus. Compare that to losing 10% against mid chain if you just go blades, or being neutral to alb chain. If BMs specced for 2H, they would not be losing 10% dmg by going 40 spec, having your base weapon at 40 and using CD styles, the only difference you are going to see is that between the styles of CD and blades.

I certainly would love to have to cap another skill with my already hard to max out BM template

That spec sounds even more retarded than the 42 shield one, but that's just me.

4 skills, 4 stats just like a shield BM. Youre welcome to think facing 16% resists instead of 36% is retarded, but i have to disagree, the harder template is worth it.

Glacius wrote:@ baww waaw
I was checking style dmg there , and indeed it was the same, i havent done tests to see if base dmg remained or modified from one spec to another at that time , now i did . When i had merc i was 50 dw 50 crush , i had stun second after anytimer so why taking slam ?


@ Brooms : There must be another diference..higher RR between you 2 ...you r caped on skills he s not..etc .

Same exact RR. Same skills. Same everything. He respecced to 50 blades last night and is now the same WS as I am.

Force wrote:4 skills, 4 stats just like a shield BM. Youre welcome to think facing 16% resists instead of 36% is retarded, but i have to disagree, the harder template is worth it.

That may work for someone that plays Euro timezones, but when you play North American, trying to get people to PVE for your gear when you are already templated is not much fun

It's an interesting spec, maybe retarded was a bit harsh :> I have no desire to run two sets of weps and drag and drop them in and out on different targets. At least you wouldn't have to run 6 different hotbars for styles as long as you stick to CD styles

From what I read in Force's post, there wouldn't be two separate weapon sets to drag and drop, just a different main hand weapon.

indeed thats normally the case with that spec - offhand dmg isn't worth changing the weapon over.. you loose too much time