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Postby Maidrion » Mar 29, 2010 14:44

http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... ht=legulas

The description in the topic says it all for me: "there you go... and we still win some fights, even with this no skill skald, think about it :D ".

If you'd had to run out with ppl like this (n/o) on hib I wouldn't even bother cause you have no chance. Mostly I play together with ppl I know to be decent players but one bad player can screw it up for you in hib, clearly unlike mid. I'm not saying it's a terribly OP realm but it is definitely a lot easier to do a good job with than others.

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Postby Sonnenschein » Mar 29, 2010 14:51

Regarding the single Classes every compareable midclass is better XD

Healer - Cleric
Healer pro: AEStun, AEmezz, Singlemezz, Root, Haste, Cele, Hastedebuff, Amnesia AE/Single
Cleric pro: Specbuffs/Buffshears, AFBuff

Shama - Friar
Shaman: Specbuffs, Endu, Buffshears, Instantdisease, Disease, Dot, Root, AEroot
Friar: OffensiveHealproc, Styles, Selfhaste/Selfendu

Wizard - Runemaster
Runemaster: Bubble, Nearsight, Debuff(Cold),
Wizard: -

^^

Well I could continue but fact is: the mid classes have more utility as a alb classes. Thats why mid need: shaman, healer, healer + 5 ppl
and alb need: Sorc, Cleric, Cleric, Pala, Caba + 3 ppl to have the same amount of CCSpells that in Midgard 3 classes do have!

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 29, 2010 15:02

Friar doesn't have a healproc on uthgard. :grin:
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Postby zaszeadora » Mar 29, 2010 15:04

Toblerone wrote:Friar doesn't have a healproc on uthgard. :grin:


And a lot less skill points ><

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Postby Ronian » Mar 29, 2010 15:14

Sonnenschein wrote:Regarding the single Classes every compareable midclass is better XD

Healer - Cleric
Healer pro: AEStun, AEmezz, Singlemezz, Root, Haste, Cele, Hastedebuff, Amnesia AE/Single
Cleric pro: Specbuffs/Buffshears, AFBuff

Shama - Friar
Shaman: Specbuffs, Endu, Buffshears, Instantdisease, Disease, Dot, Root, AEroot
Friar: OffensiveHealproc, Styles, Selfhaste/Selfendu

Wizard - Runemaster
Runemaster: Bubble, Nearsight, Debuff(Cold),
Wizard: -

^^

Well I could continue but fact is: the mid classes have more utility as a alb classes. Thats why mid need: shaman, healer, healer + 5 ppl
and alb need: Sorc, Cleric, Cleric, Pala, Caba + 3 ppl to have the same amount of CCSpells that in Midgard 3 classes do have!


You cant compare classes 1:1. Would be boring if every realm has the identical counterpart. Shaman is more a caster and Friar of course a tank.

But yes, Healer is the best supporter in this game^^

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 29, 2010 15:25

Friar, tank? Why, because it has styles ? Is bard a tank too ? :D

In real daoc, a friar is a great support class as it should be but unfortunately that's not the case on uthgard.
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Postby Ronian » Mar 29, 2010 15:31

Toblerone wrote:Friar, tank? Why, because it has styles ? Is bard a tank too ? :D

In real daoc, a friar is a great support class as it should be but unfortunately that's not the case on uthgard.


He is tank because the average player has max 7 in healing^^

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Postby Neju » Mar 29, 2010 15:43

Ronian wrote:
Toblerone wrote:Friar, tank? Why, because it has styles ? Is bard a tank too ? :D

In real daoc, a friar is a great support class as it should be but unfortunately that's not the case on uthgard.


He is tank because the average player has max 7 in healing^^


because on uthgard the friar heal line is ****** :P
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Postby Toblerone » Mar 29, 2010 15:51

Ronian wrote:
Toblerone wrote:Friar, tank? Why, because it has styles ? Is bard a tank too ? :D

In real daoc, a friar is a great support class as it should be but unfortunately that's not the case on uthgard.


He is tank because the average player has max 7 in healing^^


Because, as neju said, the friar's healing line is sh*t on uthgard. Not long ago group-hots were reported having a lot higher power cost than they should, don't know if that ever got fixed as well.

Even with low healing, a friar is not a tank.
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Postby vangonaj » Mar 29, 2010 16:02

Friar isn´t tank but is very powerfull class.

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Postby Neju » Mar 29, 2010 16:03

vangonaj wrote:Friar isn´t tank but is very powerfull class.


yes

friar is good 1v1

albion is OP!! :roll:
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Postby vangonaj » Mar 29, 2010 16:08

Neju wrote:
vangonaj wrote:Friar isn´t tank but is very powerfull class.


yes

friar is good 1v1

albion is OP!! :roll:


Said i something about OP? Powerfull insn´t OP.

Stop flame pls.

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 29, 2010 16:08

vangonaj wrote:Friar isn´t tank but is very powerfull class.


Powerful in pve ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

How can you say a terrible class such a friar is powerful. Okay then, hunters are powerful too.
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Postby Apoc315 » Mar 29, 2010 16:18

30 utility was just a number Toblerone. Don't take it literally. But i think it's way too far for you... actyally mate, you're just trolling around. We got your opinion, and 26 pages of posts says that is wrong. :P

Alb has 2 best rupter in the game, plus the cabalist that is one of the best (for best i mean: it's a good class, it's fun to play, and it's extremely useful) classes in the game imho.

The Theurge play is way more easy than a zerk: pre-kite, spam the pets, then try to not die - and meanwhile make the charge tanks like zerks that don't have slam overextended. You die? No problem. Ress/PR then again pet spam (I saw theurges like Akejode being ressed like 4 times, and spammed pets without makin any buff/selfbuff on himself, just spamming pets).

Against a Theurge well played you could be rupted for 70% of the inc. And what the theurge does? Pet. Ice pets to those who kite too much, earth pets to those who push, sometimes even Air pets that chain stuns.

Mid in 1 group has a lot of utility, i can't say the contrary. But say that Midgard is unbeatable (on the paper)... come on guys, this is insane. Or that Hibernia is a realm that should be revisited in every class/magic/style the realm got.

Mid has ista mezz? Sorc has bolt range mezz. Mid has baseline disease on shaman? There's the Cab with disease, NS, and RR 5 that is great. Mid has celerity? I say Theurge. Ista-mezz on Skald? Minstrel that can mezz in movement, and meanwhile spam dd and ista-stun on other targets.

Alb and Mid, actually, are perfectly balanced. If BD pets will be implemented, well that could make unbalance.

For Hib, i'll say the same thing i said in other posts. In RvR the only Hib-group that played, winning a fair 8v8 fight, was a Caster Group. Enchanters should be fixed in the baseline dmg of Light Line - for the other chars, imho, are fine. I haven't still seen a PBAOE group on Hib, and that is sad. It's the only realm with 2 bomb classes :-\

(Plus in Caster groups, i've seen the magic stun of the mages, that on a Det tank lastes 2 secs - the stun target should be one of the 2 slambot a caster group always have, not the chanter)

Just my Opinion.

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Postby vangonaj » Mar 29, 2010 16:24

Never say good clas, in albion mean OP :D

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