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Postby Blue » Mar 10, 2010 14:26

You misunderstand. Caster can not freely cast behind them, only if they start the cast while the target is in front and target is moving a bit behind them, they will still have a small chance that the spell not fails. This only applies to moving targets. If the target stands in the back the caster can't successfully complete the cast. This is to avoid the run-through problems with constant out-of-view.

For positional style checks, its done live like. You can't do from back attacks if you are not in the back of your target.
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Postby Rector » Mar 10, 2010 14:29

Blue wrote:For positional style checks, its done live like. You can't do from back attacks if you are not in the back of your target.


Sadly, it's common practice to use a trick to land backstuns in duels, like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWAj53OU2c4

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 10, 2010 15:13

That's how it should be. Positional styles exist for a reason, and the game isn't only about stick > reactionary/backup with anytimer.
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Postby Rector » Mar 10, 2010 15:15

Thats a point that can be discussed controversial ;)

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 10, 2010 15:38

It's easy to blame game mechanics when someone clearly outplayed you.
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Postby Braxis » Mar 10, 2010 16:14

Perhaps mouse clicking your styles is inefficient if you want to win fights.

Hear it works well enough in mid tho...

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Postby zid » Mar 10, 2010 16:54

Braxis wrote:Hear it works well enough in mid tho...


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Postby Toblerone » Mar 10, 2010 16:57

Obvious mid player is obvious.
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Postby zid » Mar 10, 2010 17:05

Toblerone wrote:Obvious mid player is obvious.


I play Hib :P

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Postby Greatreaper » Mar 27, 2010 01:31

Blue wrote:You misunderstand. Caster can not freely cast behind them, only if they start the cast while the target is in front and target is moving a bit behind them, they will still have a small chance that the spell not fails.


How big is that chance? Had some Issues with quick casts missing cause of running through me....

well next time i have to fraps it :?

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Postby Jonah » Mar 28, 2010 11:23

Evade seems bugged to, an infil shoudnt bee able to evade when im striking from the beside. And no i wasnt in hes front arc. I was opening up from stealth abit behind but from the side. So it seems all classes with evade have advanced evade on this server, clearly a nerf for all zerkers and savages

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Postby Glacius » Mar 28, 2010 13:19

Greatreaper wrote:
Blue wrote:You misunderstand. Caster can not freely cast behind them, only if they start the cast while the target is in front and target is moving a bit behind them, they will still have a small chance that the spell not fails.


How big is that chance? Had some Issues with quick casts missing cause of running through me....

well next time i have to fraps it :?


That 's how it is on live also , if a tank atacks you and you dont have dext buffs or suficient cast speed its imposible to do a cast if he keeps strafing back and forth trough you, even tho u do /face him.

Toblerone wrote:It's easy to blame game mechanics when someone clearly outplayed you.


On live you were doing back stuns not cause of lags but cause of your position towards the player's rear like going trough and starting your style whileu r half way and then perform ing it . Here i got hit by backstyle positionals and the player was in front of me all the time..like in his universe i was with back to him and in mine i didnt .

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Postby Force » Mar 28, 2010 14:01

Braxis wrote:Perhaps mouse clicking your styles is inefficient if you want to win fights.

Hear it works well enough in Uthgard tho...



fixed that for ya.


That video posted is actually a classic example of why clicking your hotbars is for baddies.

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Postby Jonah » Mar 28, 2010 14:16

Glacius wrote:
That 's how it is on live also , if a tank atacks you and you dont have dext buffs or suficient cast speed its imposible to do a cast if he keeps strafing back and forth trough you, even tho u do /face him.


On live there was a easy trick to land qc on tanks that run through you. After 3/4 of the cast u hit face and take 2 steps backwards, u have to time it not getting interupted from moving. This is easy to learn and works 90% of the times. If u didnt use it or never heard of it you are the biggest noob ever.

U can easy use this trick here, u know QC has a fix cast of 2 seconds no matter of stats etc. so its the same here as on live so ur statement of buffs and cast spd is wrong.

This "fix" has to go away as it has the sideeffect of giving parry, block and evade and 360 degrees angel.

It was better on live, u could move more in a fight, getting positionals in and avoiding blocks and at the same time u had some out of view so it was balanced.

Here it always best to just face and stand still as the enemy will block anyway and the strafe code is insane here, its not even based on how u press ur strafe key as i get misses from strafe when i just autostick enemies.

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Postby Force » Mar 28, 2010 14:29

actually the best thing to do when you get a trank train on you is to run in circles stacking as close to them as possible. They will get a combination or 'target not in view' and if you stay close enough to them, since you are moving you will have 360 degree defenses.


So you can cut down their DPS by 'target not in view' crap, and then when they do finally get an attack off its probably unstyle unless they are spamming their style or watching for 'not in view message', and on top of that you've got 360 degree parry/evade/block and your block rate will be artificially high relative to live :)

So just run in circles like mad trying to pass inside of every attacker on you. That is if you don't have a peel.

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