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Postby Glacius » Mar 15, 2010 19:07

Heli wrote:Warden can't spec moblock on Uthgard...


Indeed , they can spec mopary only, but block in adition to it works so well chich makes em so hard to touch even by me who i am DW.

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Postby Braxis » Mar 15, 2010 19:17

Dude, your not suposed to take out warden/friar 1on1 anyway...

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Postby Glacius » Mar 15, 2010 19:23

Braxis wrote:Dude, your not suposed to take out warden/friar 1on1 anyway...


Lol ?? i was kiling wardens on live with my feet and 1 hand tied behind my back with zerker ! they had bt but were not blocking the way they do here parry yes because they can spec it and make it even better from RA s..but block no, also their dmg is with ??? ..because clases like wardens and thanes hit like hibrids here , havent tested it..but thats what i ve heard.

And friar ?? muarf ! the only thing which makes friar beter are bufs and the fact that he can take augm dext4 and mopain4 mopary 4 beeing at rr7 a kiling machine, while me at rr7 i have det5 charge2 and mopain 4 if i m lucky enough, those r his advantages , both fully bufed , omfg i kill 3 friars with 1 bar of hp.

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Postby Neju » Mar 15, 2010 19:49

Glacius wrote:
Braxis wrote:Dude, your not suposed to take out warden/friar 1on1 anyway...


Lol ?? i was kiling wardens on live with my feet and 1 hand tied behind my back with zerker ! they had bt but were not blocking the way they do here parry yes because they can spec it and make it even better from RA s..but block no, also their dmg is with ??? ..because clases like wardens and thanes hit like hibrids here , havent tested it..but thats what i ve heard.

And friar ?? muarf ! the only thing which makes friar beter are bufs and the fact that he can take augm dext4 and mopain4 mopary 4 beeing at rr7 a kiling machine, while me at rr7 i have det5 charge2 and mopain 4 if i m lucky enough, those r his advantages , both fully bufed , omfg i kill 3 friars with 1 bar of hp.


Complaining about Warden damage is just :lol: and complaining that a friar takes SOLO realm abilties to SOLO to win, while you take GROUP real abilties and then complain about your lack of SOLO realm abilities...

you are such a joke :lol:
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Postby bawww » Mar 15, 2010 20:49

Glacius wrote:And friar ?? muarf ! the only thing which makes friar beter are bufs and the fact that he can take augm dext4 and mopain4 mopary 4 beeing at rr7 a kiling machine, while me at rr7 i have det5 charge2 and mopain 4 if i m lucky enough, those r his advantages , both fully bufed , omfg i kill 3 friars with 1 bar of hp.

A good friar will eat you up, trust me. He doesn't need those passives, with ST IP and rr5 he can heal himself like 3 times in the fight, sure you can counter ST with charge unless it's ST3 but you probably dump charge on inc:D

Next thing you will say is that you can beat a good bm with your eyes closed-_-

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Postby Force » Mar 15, 2010 21:06

bawww wrote:A good friar will eat you up, trust me. He doesn't need those passives, with ST IP and rr5 he can heal himself like 3 times in the fight, sure you can counter ST with charge unless it's ST3 but you probably dump charge on inc:D

Next thing you will say is that you can beat a good bm with your eyes closed-_-




ST is worthless against DET5 + stoicism. It interrupts combat about as well as 'inc lag'

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Postby Glacius » Mar 15, 2010 22:12

Warden dmg should be even crappier.
I compared friar with bersy in RA for the fact that around rr8 i will have the pasives a friar has at rr4+ and that really help in a 1 vs 1.
And no , a friar doesnt kick my but so hard as long as i got some bufs even pots..for static tempest there is charge, and determ shouldnt affect static tempest btw, lol IP .. and friar s rr5 aint that great..i can dd him u know :)

Ask rastah how he died after he used rr5 ,then slamed me..and he still died :) BM sux and when i see them with slam..they are even more lame ,same for mercs , if u got some blood in ur d use other styles to stun ur target not going the easy way:P

Neju take a hike , you obviously understand 50% of everything some ppl say around here and then u come with stupid conclusions .

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Postby Force » Mar 15, 2010 22:23

I remember det not effecting ST on live too, but here everytime I get hit with it, it just blinks on for a second. Barely even notice the stun.

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Postby Neju » Mar 15, 2010 22:30

touched a nerve motaro? :lol:
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Postby Dialia » Mar 15, 2010 22:33

bm make less dmg ? is this live like ? ... plz increase dmg of bm

det 5 charge 2 mopain 4 ... ehm so what ... these ras dont give you an advantage if you want to hit a warden. and comparison to live ... on live you had probably str-stat overcap > more weaponskill > easier to break defense.

should every player with solo spec and ras complain about a lost fight against a grp specced char ? that would be more terrifying

do you rly think 74 - 127 dmg from a sylvan (incr. start str) with 50 weaponspec and 4.2 weapon dly. , red base str and maybe s/c charge or aug str is much dmg compared to your 98 dmg UNSTYLED OFFHAND

i dont know if you have a s/c charge, but if not ... do you rly think you can break so easily through moparry 2 or 3 (with red dexbuff and d/q charge) without augmented str ra ?

and if you think the warden blocks much .. get a small shield on zerker ... you would be surprised how much you block


Glacius wrote:Neju take a hike , you obviously understand 50% of everything some ppl say around here and then u come with stupid conclusions .


same to you but a little bit less %

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Postby Amadeth » Mar 15, 2010 23:05

I'll just drop in and say that on live even non shield-spec classes benefit from dex as far as blocking/parry goes.
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Postby Glacius » Mar 15, 2010 23:51

Actually Dialia..i have augm str4 also :) and i run with str/con pot aye..and i want to tell you that ..on live i did a test with BM vs a warden with 26 parry spec mopary4 RA fully bufed , he wasnt blocking that much , parry yes..but not block.

We will see the blockrate soon for clases like sham cleric etc in some tests.

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Postby bawww » Mar 16, 2010 00:21

hm I didn't know det affects ST here rofl, so it's not even semiusefull. Yeah you can dd him, he will still have time to heal himself.


And a bm losing to a zerker is just lol, maybe if the bm is pierce and doesn't have his rr5 and tw ready but that is situational. And don't talk about positional styles when in all the videos you post all you do is stick>doublefrost:)

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Postby Nayru » Mar 16, 2010 00:24

The screenshot shows 7 blocks in a row. So what? I'm quite sure you would even find 10 blocks in a row. This doesn't mean anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic ... cal_theory

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Postby Glacius » Mar 16, 2010 00:25

bawww wrote:hm I didn't know det affects ST here rofl, so it's not even semiusefull. Yeah you can dd him, he will still have time to heal himself.


And a bm losing to a zerker is just lol, maybe if the bm is pierce and doesn't have his rr5 and tw ready but that is situational. And don't talk about positional styles when in all the videos you post all you do is stick>doublefrost:)


Ppl can lag you know, maybe for u this server goes smooth,for me it isnt..so instead going to his ass and doing a back with anytimer backup , if i know he ll die i ll go for the anytimer. All my videos ..and actually there s 1:P.

Nayru wrote:The screenshot shows 7 blocks in a row. So what? I'm quite sure you would even find 10 blocks in a row. This doesn't mean anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic ... cal_theory


No off..but its abit 2 much for a cleric.
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