Drakons20 wrote:It's an exploit that every realm uses, and nothing is done about it; even-though the staff specifically says exploiting bugs is bannable. Same as sending pets into locked keeps.

From the current server rules:
§5.3
Attacking other players through keepgates and -windows is allowed in each manner.

Drakons20 wrote:And on Live the only class that could do this was Banshee and Thank god they aren't here.

In OF, every PBAE/AE did damage, even if there was no LOS (doors, walls).

Ezek wrote:

Drakons20 wrote:It's an exploit that every realm uses, and nothing is done about it; even-though the staff specifically says exploiting bugs is bannable. Same as sending pets into locked keeps.

From the current server rules:
§5.3
Attacking other players through keepgates and -windows is allowed in each manner.

Drakons20 wrote:And on Live the only class that could do this was Banshee and Thank god they aren't here.

In OF, every PBAE/AE did damage, even if there was no LOS (doors, walls).

Will be the able cast area DD on doors added on utghard? ( was livelike)

Force wrote:The line of sight change which made AE through walls/doors impossible was an NF change which came with the launch of NF @ 1.70;

"- As a part of the New Frontiers expansion, the line of sight code has been revised to improve the keep battle experience. Players will not be able to use area effect spells to damage others through keep walls/gates. Keep guards will also obey line of sight rules when attacking enemy players"

http://support.darkageofcamelot.com/kb/ ... php?id=756

Thnx alot Force, i knew its a pre 1.80 change just that i was looking at bugs and fixes while actually its a changed feature.

Neju wrote:and therefore should not be implemented into this Old Frontier MAP setting

Implement Aoe being targetted on Doors and it fixes the whole situation whilst remaining *classic* anyways

We are having patch 1.80 ras,features, the only "old frontiers" scent we have is the battle scene , with the rvr maps, thats it.

Neju wrote:i asked the same, clearly not ready carefully

You answer to me with another question? i knew pbaoe should not hit trough walls in patch 1.80 , just that i havent found yet the corect article, thnx to Force you got ur answer now.

Ezek wrote:
From the current server rules:
§5.3
Attacking other players through keepgates and -windows is allowed in each manner.


In OF, every PBAE/AE did damage, even if there was no LOS (doors, walls).

Ezek, with all do respect, in patch 1.70 aoe/pbaoe trough doors was not posible anymore , with NF or not we do respect 1.80 changes yes? change it then , that server rule should not even aply, because its in adition to a feature that should not be here .
I dont know why u all fuss so much about OF with new Ra s and so on, took us so much time to correct the RA s we can test now in Pendragon, implementing OF RA s and features will be a burden for the Gms and players who want to help..so i m not even taking OF into consideration.

OF map = OF keep... and those are the keeps that we are using.

So the rules for aoe/pbae should be for OF keeps (pre 1.70)

Neju wrote:OF map = OF keep... and those are the keeps that we are using.

So the rules for aoe/pbae should be for OF keeps (pre 1.70)

All albs are so hardheaded like you? we have patch 1.80 , when the classes and all the implementations will be set to OF they i will agree with you, until then no, cant you understand that its just a map what you have at the moment and i am talking about a feature that was .

We are 1.80 patch , and since 1.70 patch pbaoe/aoe trough doors shouldnt be posible anymore, keeps are keeps and walls are walls.

ok, then give us NF siege weapons.. can't have OF style siege (non moveable rams, OF keeps) and no pbae through doors

Neju wrote:ok, then give us NF siege weapons.. can't have OF style siege (non moveable rams, OF keeps) and no pbae through doors

I just solved a big bug, geting dismounted from ram when beeing hit, helps siege alot, also not pbaoeing trough walls will help siege even more , why u need other types of rams? catapults and the others were oke to break the walls of a keep , i believe the existing RAms r good enough.

there is nothing wrong with pbae in a keep - whole situation where it can be abused gets taken care of if you let aoe be targetted on to doors (livelike).

I meant whole NF siege style.. not just rams

there is no oil is OF keeps, so there really isnt much defenders can do in keeps at the moment - pbae is fine.. just stop crying

Neju wrote:there is nothing wrong with pbae in a keep - whole situation where it can be abused gets taken care of if you let aoe be targetted on to doors (livelike).

I meant whole NF siege style.. not just rams

there is no oil is OF keeps, so there really isnt much defenders can do in keeps at the moment - pbae is fine.. just stop crying

I dont cry, why r u so ignorant and come up with that, its a feature that was changed and we should have it to. End of discussion

Yup remove the only way to defend a keep from the inside. That's pure genius motaro.

Toblerone wrote:Yup remove the only way to defend a keep from the inside. That's pure genius motaro.

Defend it by numbers and other tactics, 2 pbaoers staying inside can wipe 3 fg of atackers , seems normal to you? to me it isnt.

3fg of dumb attackers - you can move, cast aoe on guards pull close to door, cast gtaoe at the gate, bring your own pbae....

/stick doublefrost spam however doesn't help

Glacius wrote:Defend it by numbers and other tactics, 2 pbaoers staying inside can wipe 3 fg of atackers , seems normal to you? to me it isnt.

Did it ever occur to you that it works both ways ? Attackers can pbaoe as well. Try thinking for a change

Toblerone wrote:

Glacius wrote:Defend it by numbers and other tactics, 2 pbaoers staying inside can wipe 3 fg of atackers , seems normal to you? to me it isnt.

Did it ever occur to you that it works both ways ? Attackers can pbaoe as well. Try thinking for a change

Neju wrote:3fg of dumb attackers - you can move, cast aoe on guards pull close to door, cast gtaoe at the gate, bring your own pbae....

/stick doublefrost spam however doesn't help

Maybe i dont have pbaoe? and i rely on ram dmg only with melee atackers, how about that?

stop trying to solo keeps