Old RAs would help bring tanks and casters more inline. Doing so will help realm balance.


More than that though, OF RAs will bring down the gap between the high RR and the low-mid RR.

@ Roflman How Braxis said , you are clueles, u whine about the dmg cause its too big and u want double hps..but u dont make toons out of firbolg..u make em out of celts cause you want gracefulnes ))) from what galaxy are you man? Mid didnt had a nerf ? we dont nerf x realm and y realm, beeing livelike its trying to adjust the clases so they will perform acordingly .

Chargetanks were the fotm on live also , and even with toa a banelord lightank would mean alot in a grp with his rupts , you cant have toa without the ML s thats simple, you ppl want more dext and casting speed 10% , i want banelord ml2 which does cast speed debuf -25% on 700 radius or so ..

@ Zaszeadora Now casters have pd5 ..if they get it, in OF they will not, i will kill any caster in 2 hits as a bersy ..becarefull what u wish for..it might happen.
Bufbots will ruin the game , its best as it is now.

Force wrote:
More than that though, OF RAs will bring down the gap between the high RR and the low-mid RR.

I agree.

Glacius wrote:@ Roflman How Braxis said , you are clueles, u whine about the dmg cause its too big and u want double hps..but u dont make toons out of firbolg..u make em out of celts cause you want gracefulnes ))) from what galaxy are you man? Mid didnt had a nerf ? we dont nerf x realm and y realm, beeing livelike its trying to adjust the clases so they will perform acordingly .

Chargetanks were the fotm on live also , and even with toa a banelord lightank would mean alot in a grp with his rupts , you cant have toa without the ML s thats simple, you ppl want more dext and casting speed 10% , i want banelord ml2 which does cast speed debuf -25% on 700 radius or so ..

@ Zaszeadora Now casters have pd5 ..if they get it, in OF they will not, i will kill any caster in 2 hits as a bersy ..becarefull what u wish for..it might happen.
Bufbots will ruin the game , its best as it is now.

Force wrote:
More than that though, OF RAs will bring down the gap between the high RR and the low-mid RR.

I agree.

Im no talking about bring buff bots, i talk about a zerker being mezzed or rooted , now on EVERY battle they charge and caster/s are dead, you cant counter that with pd5 or pd25, on a brainless assist train, zero skill, zero fun for caster, with old ras youll need purge mezz but you can be rooted, and then youll need use a trow weap to interrup wile you wait how was on OF.

Force wrote:Old RAs would help bring tanks and casters more inline. Doing so will help realm balance.

Yes, along with a gazillion more things that will need to get custom fixed for the game to function properly.
NF RAs are a lesser evil and are easily fixable compared to OF.

Force wrote:More than that though, OF RAs will bring down the gap between the high RR and the low-mid RR.

No they won't.
Do you remember those prequisits for OF RAs?

Nothing short of agramon will help to lessen the rr gap, because it was that same agramon that made it possible in the first place.

Braxis wrote:

Force wrote:Old RAs would help bring tanks and casters more inline. Doing so will help realm balance.

Yes, along with a gazillion more things that will need to get custom fixed for the game to function properly.
NF RAs are a lesser evil and are easily fixable compared to OF.

Force wrote:More than that though, OF RAs will bring down the gap between the high RR and the low-mid RR.

No they won't.
Do you remember those prequisits for OF RAs?

Nothing short of agramon will help to lessen the rr gap, because it was that same agramon that made it possible in the first place.

Custom fixes are inevitable on a server that can not test against live.



However, OF RAs will clearly lower the requisite RRs needed to obtain the most "game changing" abilities. Beyond that you continue to enhance the capacity of your toon, but not nearly as much as with NF RAs.


I think one of the best examples of how this works is the Skald class. Compare what a Skald can buy in NF at RR11 to what they can buy in OF with RR11. In OF an RR11 skald would have quite a few toys, sure, but the RR11 Skald in NF has ungodly abilities at their disposal. Most are on 15 minute timers, half the time for the OF skalds abilities which were no where near as game changing.


You can make this comparison with any class. And even the classes which have their best abilities behind pre reqs, still are able to buy those abilities in their entirety for less than the NF equivalent. MoC may not have any pre reqs, but its still 30 points for MoC 3.

yesterday I had a guy PM me in game asking:

"when do staff plan to fix the imbalance between realms"

I answered:

"I am afraid I can't answer that but I can say that you most likely won't see celerity on all realms etc."

he responded:

"Oh well I will go play mid until changes happens then"


now there imo is 90% of hibernias problems..

That's not hibernia's problem, it's the server's problem

When people see obvious imbalances of course they'll go play the more powerful side or simply quit. Getting rolled in rvr 80% of the time just because realm x has more powerful classes and tools than realm y isn't the definition of fun, and rvr should be fun.

Force wrote:Custom fixes are inevitable on a server that can not test against live.

That will be its downfall, if OF RAs ever get implemented here.
Just look at volley.

Force wrote:However, OF RAs will clearly lower the requisite RRs needed to obtain the most "game changing" abilities. Beyond that you continue to enhance the capacity of your toon, but not nearly as much as with NF RAs.

How so? If OF has prequisites and NF does not.
The only thing OF RAs have to offer is more gamebraking imbalances.

Force wrote:I think one of the best examples of how this works is the Skald class. Compare what a Skald can buy in NF at RR11 to what they can buy in OF with RR11. In OF an RR11 skald would have quite a few toys, sure, but the RR11 Skald in NF has ungodly abilities at their disposal. Most are on 15 minute timers, half the time for the OF skalds abilities which were no where near as game changing.

Stop looking at all those grps that roll over you and try looking at this from another perspective.
In this setting mid is op.
No abount of changing RAs will make those high rr ppl easily killable.

If you want to change something that indeed needs changing, look at the way that same skald gets to rr11 compared to classes of different usefulness from other realms.

When you fix that, they you'll have realm balance.

Toblerone wrote:That's not hibernia's problem, it's the server's problem

When people see obvious imbalances of course they'll go play the more powerful side or simply quit. Getting rolled in rvr 80% of the time just because realm x has more powerful classes and tools than realm y isn't the definition of fun, and rvr should be fun.

This.

lol nixian, you cant have it stated any simpler than that.

Braxis, deepthroat me.

Uthgard needs changeee. hib need 50% exp increase for one week tbh. mids need -100% exp rate and albs are ok.

done.

No Braxis, we will have realm balance when people start pulling their fingers from eachothers asses and get down to changing this complete and utter mess of a so called "Classic" (withSCWTF?!) RvR server....

so mids are OP, people change realm bcos of it...if this was live they would implement exp bonuses for under population but they wont do that here cos they dont care. its THIER OWN server, not the communtiy, the word Community shouldnt even be used.

roflman wrote:Braxis, deepthroat me.

Uthgard needs changeee. hib need 50% exp increase for one week tbh. mids need -100% exp rate and albs are ok.

done.

For those intellectually challenged: I agree with you, just not in such a crude manner.

roflman wrote:No Braxis, we will have realm balance when people start pulling their fingers from eachothers asses and get down to changing this complete and utter mess of a so called "Classic" (withSCWTF?!) RvR server....

so mids are OP, people change realm bcos of it...if this was live they would implement exp bonuses for under population but they wont do that here cos they dont care. its THIER OWN server, not the communtiy, the word Community shouldnt even be used.

why is it you have such a negative attitude?

yes this is the staffs server - but why the f.. would they not want people to play on it and have the most fun they can? would be insane for the staff to want to ruin the server on purpose.. try get some common sense and then give a valid reason to why you don't think staff wants the best for the server

Just a question , if mid melees are so op ; why Albs and hibs guild group loose only against Mids casters groups or Hybrids groups?

because every has specced atleast BoF2 solely to fight vs mid grps... want us to get rr10 and then also spec Baod2?