Roll on, i made a Poll as we cannot do one here

http://poll.pollcode.com/3lmD


there must be a reason why almost every bm on hibernia can nowadays say - my dmg is crap compared to other melee-dds.

i mean, there should be a equivalent oppenent in every realm, shouldnt ? one line > berserkers _ mercenarys _ blademasters.

its not long ago i played on live, and from as far i remember, bms there had been great damagedealers. compared to buggard they just tickle you with a toothpick.

obvious there is something wrong obvious!

Obviously there is something wrong, i mean, why would hibs take 4 bms into grp and no other tanks.
Ohh right, ul prolly say they have no other option to pick from.

This is a failed bash thread in the makings from post 1.

On live you get 101 stats, you hit at cap speed due to celerity and you have insane procs. If you want to deal dmg with a bm on Uthgard you have to minmax your character (make a firbolg, 15 in str etc...) and I seriously doubt any merc can outdamage firb bm blunt specced with 4.3 speed mainhand on a target with a neutral armor (caster) considering albs get only 4.0 speed mainhand unless it's a drop. Zerkers are another story.

merc dmg = bm dmg

Its just that mercs have slightly better GRs on first styles in their combos, BUT bms have a backsnare and a 1,3gr style as a sidecombo followup. Also do not forget, bms are always hasted(druid has a hastespecbuff) and though their styledmg is always decreased a little while mercs are not always hasted and thatswhy their dmg per hit might look a bit higher than that of bms, from a noob-perspective though.

moved to support

this is not a bug report - you should know that

Merc Bm should get around same dmgs , i ve been hit by a merc Bloodsz for 340 mainh 140 offh who is slash dmg VS my weak bersy studded, to notice that albs had +10% to melee dmg from relics and i have checked his weapons and on Allakhazam they are both 4.2 speed, i need a confirmation from albion if its like that

Basalt sword of anarchy (mainh) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25156

Basalt sword of oblivion (its offh check image, not righth how they set it in title) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25559

How Satz said, if mercs dont have theurg in grp to EB/haste em, they remain with dext/quic buff wich is the only 1 that can reduce their output dmg , so yeah they will hit for more dmg on a swing .

Merc in this pic did 300 mainh h, with sidestyle but i got hit by him for 340 also.
Pic

Why have i talked so much about merc, cause BM should hit same way if it had same weps bufs etc, to notice that if u spec 39 blades/blunt and u r using blades styles u r looosing 11% from your growth style for every type of style u make, and pierce bm s we all know that will never hit like a blunt Firbolg BM with 15 str added @ creation.

I personally have 247 str unbufed on zerker and with backstyle Snowsquall style using crush hammer dmg i did on bards 275 max dmg ..this merc doing 300-340 seems oke condisering i have the Laxe handicap.

bms are gimp

why mythic made a vampiir

Corwinn wrote:Obviously there is something wrong, i mean, why would hibs take 4 bms into grp and no other tanks.
Ohh right, ul prolly say they have no other option to pick from.

This is a failed bash thread in the makings from post 1.

right, and even with 4 bms they dont kill a 8v8


@ glacius no its not like that.

my bladecelt rarely never doen 250+ dmg on vulnerable armor :F

BM damage is okay. Actually every 1h/dual wielding class does enough or more damage than it should (under more read assassins and rangers).

2h damage is really messed up here.

removed a lot of offtopicness - stay on topic

Glacius wrote:Merc Bm should get around same dmgs , i ve been hit by a merc Bloodsz for 340 mainh 140 offh who is slash dmg VS my weak bersy studded, to notice that albs had +10% to melee dmg from relics and i have checked his weapons and on Allakhazam they are both 4.2 speed, i need a confirmation from albion if its like that

Basalt sword of anarchy (mainh) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25156

Basalt sword of oblivion (its offh check image, not righth how they set it in title) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25559

Albs can get basalt sword drop that has 4.2 speed and can be used in offhand.

bawww wrote:

Glacius wrote:Merc Bm should get around same dmgs , i ve been hit by a merc Bloodsz for 340 mainh 140 offh who is slash dmg VS my weak bersy studded, to notice that albs had +10% to melee dmg from relics and i have checked his weapons and on Allakhazam they are both 4.2 speed, i need a confirmation from albion if its like that

Basalt sword of anarchy (mainh) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25156

Basalt sword of oblivion (its offh check image, not righth how they set it in title) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25559

Albs can get basalt sword drop that has 4.2 speed and can be used in offhand.

There you go, slash merc rulez ! thank you , mids and hibs dont have posibility to use 2 x 4.2 spd weapons.

danteafk wrote:
@ glacius no its not like that.

my bladecelt rarely never doen 250+ dmg on vulnerable armor :F

What spec is your Bm pierce or slash ? celt BM is not the fotm,firby has 20 str more or 30 i forgot, troll has 30 more str and i ve put on mine 15 points str on creation.
Wich vulnerable armour are we talking about, i hope its studded, that means u gota be slash to hit mid zerkers cause chain has higher absorb and its out of discusion as i already said that pierce Bm will never outdmg Blades/blunt bm on neutral targets. Jump merc is slash spec also,not usre what weapons he has but he never hited me for more then 260 , while that half ogre merc slash also did 340 , its a dif

Glacius wrote:

bawww wrote:

Glacius wrote:Merc Bm should get around same dmgs , i ve been hit by a merc Bloodsz for 340 mainh 140 offh who is slash dmg VS my weak bersy studded, to notice that albs had +10% to melee dmg from relics and i have checked his weapons and on Allakhazam they are both 4.2 speed, i need a confirmation from albion if its like that

Basalt sword of anarchy (mainh) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25156

Basalt sword of oblivion (its offh check image, not righth how they set it in title) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25559

Albs can get basalt sword drop that has 4.2 speed and can be used in offhand.

There you go, slash merc rulez ! thank you , mids and hibs dont have posibility to use 2 x 4.2 spd weapons.

But you your swing speed is modified ONLY by haste (20% in this case) and qui. There is no free 30-40% haste from cele in alb..

Shav wrote:

Glacius wrote:

bawww wrote:

Glacius wrote:Merc Bm should get around same dmgs , i ve been hit by a merc Bloodsz for 340 mainh 140 offh who is slash dmg VS my weak bersy studded, to notice that albs had +10% to melee dmg from relics and i have checked his weapons and on Allakhazam they are both 4.2 speed, i need a confirmation from albion if its like that

Basalt sword of anarchy (mainh) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25156

Basalt sword of oblivion (its offh check image, not righth how they set it in title) link : http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25559

Albs can get basalt sword drop that has 4.2 speed and can be used in offhand.

There you go, slash merc rulez ! thank you , mids and hibs dont have posibility to use 2 x 4.2 spd weapons.

But you your swing speed is modified ONLY by haste (20% in this case) and qui. There is no free 30-40% haste from cele in alb..

Have i said anything about 40% haste ?Whats your point? u think i m hiting all the time with both haste bufs ? 75% of the times i dont.
In my example i gave an info why albs hit so hard fully bufed and with 19% haste from theurg buff, cause of the weps they can use.

Yes, everyone has basalt drops they are handed out in front of camelot, you just need to find the right npc.