-
Force
- Phoenix Knight
-
- Posts: 1569
- Joined: Oct 22, 2009 00:00
|
 by Force » Feb 05, 2010 18:11
Lvl50 styles like supernova were bugged on live and uses base spec (pierce/blades for a ranger) in calculating style dmg. I haven't tested it here but it's probably safe to say it works the same way, meaning going 29 pierce to get the lvl 50 CD style isn't going to help.
|
| |
-
Toblerone
- Banned
-
- Posts: 1071
- Joined: Jan 27, 2010 01:00
- Location: Croatia
|
by Toblerone » Feb 05, 2010 18:12
I'm guessing he'd have 29+ whatever, not only 29.
|
| |
-
Force
- Phoenix Knight
-
- Posts: 1569
- Joined: Oct 22, 2009 00:00
|
by Force » Feb 05, 2010 18:49
Toblerone wrote:I'm guessing he'd have 29+ whatever, not only 29.
So what? 29 base spec means he'd be missing 21 points for the purpose of calculating style dmg. Since style dmg calcs don't cap at composite level, if he had +21 to the 29 he'd still be missing out on 21 points in the line for the purpose of style dmg calculation since he could have had 50+21...no matter your + to skills if your specced 29 in the line being used for style dmg calcs you're losing a ton of style dmg.
Not to even mention the fact at until RR11/12 he wouldn't even have 50/51 composite base weapon so his base dmg would suck too.
|
| |
-
Horace
- Warder
-
- Posts: 23
- Joined: Jan 08, 2010 01:00
|
by Horace » Feb 05, 2010 19:56
Force wrote:Toblerone wrote:I'm guessing he'd have 29+ whatever, not only 29.
So what? 29 base spec means he'd be missing 21 points for the purpose of calculating style dmg. Since style dmg calcs don't cap at composite level, if he had +21 to the 29 he'd still be missing out on 21 points in the line for the purpose of style dmg calculation since he could have had 50+21...no matter your + to skills if your specced 29 in the line being used for style dmg calcs you're losing a ton of style dmg. Not to even mention the fact at until RR11/12 he wouldn't even have 50/51 composite base weapon so his base dmg would suck too.
He woudl be using CD which is spec to 50 (not composite) so super nova should still have a huge bonus, but his base dmg, because of the low pierce (29) would be pretty poor I think. It MIGHT be worth doing that if ur high rr, but at low rr, ur prolly losing a ton of base dps im guessing. I wish I coudl see the numbers to make a better decision though 
|
| |
-
Force
- Phoenix Knight
-
- Posts: 1569
- Joined: Oct 22, 2009 00:00
|
by Force » Feb 06, 2010 00:58
Horace wrote:He woudl be using CD which is spec to 50 (not composite) so super nova should still have a huge bonus, but his base dmg, because of the low pierce (29) would be pretty poor I think. It MIGHT be worth doing that if ur high rr, but at low rr, ur prolly losing a ton of base dps im guessing. I wish I coudl see the numbers to make a better decision though
Force wrote:Lvl50 styles like supernova were bugged on live and uses base spec (pierce/blades for a ranger) in calculating style dmg. I haven't tested it here but it's probably safe to say it works the same way, meaning going 29 pierce to get the lvl 50 CD style isn't going to help.
|
| |
-
Horace
- Warder
-
- Posts: 23
- Joined: Jan 08, 2010 01:00
|
by Horace » Feb 06, 2010 07:43
Force wrote:Horace wrote:He woudl be using CD which is spec to 50 (not composite) so super nova should still have a huge bonus, but his base dmg, because of the low pierce (29) would be pretty poor I think. It MIGHT be worth doing that if ur high rr, but at low rr, ur prolly losing a ton of base dps im guessing. I wish I coudl see the numbers to make a better decision though
Force wrote:Lvl50 styles like supernova were bugged on live and uses base spec (pierce/blades for a ranger) in calculating style dmg. I haven't tested it here but it's probably safe to say it works the same way, meaning going 29 pierce to get the lvl 50 CD style isn't going to help.
That is really lame if thats the case. WTF is the point of speccing 50 then? It cost a buttload of points for nothing?
|
| |
-
bawww
- Eagle Knight
-
- Posts: 584
- Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00
- Location: Rocky road to Dublin
|
by bawww » Feb 06, 2010 07:58
Force wrote:Lvl50 styles like supernova were bugged on live and uses base spec (pierce/blades for a ranger) in calculating style dmg. I haven't tested it here but it's probably safe to say it works the same way, meaning going 29 pierce to get the lvl 50 CD style isn't going to help.
I doubt that is the case on Uthgard.
|
| |
-
Force
- Phoenix Knight
-
- Posts: 1569
- Joined: Oct 22, 2009 00:00
|
by Force » Feb 06, 2010 08:11
bawww wrote:Force wrote:Lvl50 styles like supernova were bugged on live and uses base spec (pierce/blades for a ranger) in calculating style dmg. I haven't tested it here but it's probably safe to say it works the same way, meaning going 29 pierce to get the lvl 50 CD style isn't going to help.
I doubt that is the case on Uthgard.
Its been the case on live and every freeshard ive tested it on, so I wouldn't expect anything different on uthgard.
|
| |
-
bawww
- Eagle Knight
-
- Posts: 584
- Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00
- Location: Rocky road to Dublin
|
by bawww » Feb 06, 2010 08:24
Well there was a bug on 99% of other freeshards where LA spec counts as Axe spec too (if you spec 50LA it's like having 50LA and 50Axe), but it's not the case on uthgard.
|
| |
-
Grendelrex
- Myrmidon
-
- Posts: 127
- Joined: Jan 27, 2010 01:00
|
by Grendelrex » Feb 06, 2010 09:31
Force wrote:Lvl50 styles like supernova were bugged on live and uses base spec (pierce/blades for a ranger) in calculating style dmg. I haven't tested it here but it's probably safe to say it works the same way, meaning going 29 pierce to get the lvl 50 CD style isn't going to help.
That's been fixed on blue servers but no idea about here.
|
| |
-
Grendelrex
- Myrmidon
-
- Posts: 127
- Joined: Jan 27, 2010 01:00
|
by Grendelrex » Feb 06, 2010 09:52
It's been a while but I believe composite 50 in your weapon damage line(blades or pierce) will cap your base damage. It's been pretty common on blue servers to spec comp 50 in weapon and high in CD as long as you only use CD styles. It's commonly known as Werd spec(I think that was his name) because he extensively tested it.
|
| |
-
Force
- Phoenix Knight
-
- Posts: 1569
- Joined: Oct 22, 2009 00:00
|
by Force » Feb 06, 2010 20:34
It was Wyrd, and he was also the person who through testing discovered the lvl 50 style bug which caused the game to use your base weapon spec (pierce/blades for ranger) as your STYLE dmg modifier when using lvl 50 styles (supernova for CD).
there's a good enough chance its like that here that I personally wouldn't spec for a lvl 50 style without testing it.
|
| |
-
Galandriel
- Gryphon Knight
-
- Posts: 239
- Joined: Nov 14, 2009 01:00
|
by Galandriel » Feb 06, 2010 20:40
i am bored of my standard specc and wanted to try
50 cd
34 blades
34 stealth
31 path
could that work better than
39 cd
38 blades
40 path
35 stealth
now?
especially meelee dmg... is it increasing or stay the same?
i dont know...
|
| |
-
bawww
- Eagle Knight
-
- Posts: 584
- Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00
- Location: Rocky road to Dublin
|
by bawww » Feb 06, 2010 21:06
Force wrote:It was Wyrd, and he was also the person who through testing discovered the lvl 50 style bug which caused the game to use your base weapon spec (pierce/blades for ranger) as your STYLE dmg modifier when using lvl 50 styles (supernova for CD).
there's a good enough chance its like that here that I personally wouldn't spec for a lvl 50 style without testing it.
Well someone has to spec it to test it 
|
| |
-
Horace
- Warder
-
- Posts: 23
- Joined: Jan 08, 2010 01:00
|
by Horace » Feb 08, 2010 20:27
I would love to test it, but it seems that the 50CD spec is really kinda limited to high RR rangers, otherwise ur benefits may not be worth losing in other areas. U def gotta be able to land a stun before getting this chain off in most cases im guessing. The question is if u get that opportunity often enough to make it worth lacking on your Avg DPS, rather than this high burst dps.
|
| |
Forum