We have changed the fight scenario to emain for a few months..and obviously AMG has become the hot spot.. yet there are nights when i saw both albs and hibs camping AMG with fg+ of stealthers kiling every soloer or grp of duo that pas..but not ..1 ...or 2..all atacking.
We all know that Emain is hard for those who want to solo because there are not to many posibilities to avoid fg or any other atack because of those gates.. you are ruining the game with those actions.
I m not saying that mids dont stay fg+ of stealthers and zerg other solo duo players from alb and hib..but..honestly i hadnt seen em do it yet..while albs and hibs did it.
I ve entered each realm and explained that if they act like that ppl will stop runing solo in emain cause there r those who like to solo duo with a friend..and maybe stop playing..
I ve tryied to help with corecting some of the bugs we have found on this server..because we are a comunity and i felt the game would be alot beter if its more livelike for every1 .. but i m upset now seeing how ppl from other realms act..so selfish and not thinking to make the game more fun for others aswell..and not just for them.
I know the story " emain iz RVR and every1 kills every1 how they want etc.." thats for ppl with no brain if you are a comunity you dont think like that , u folow your purpose but u try to make things in such a manner that will be ok for the others aswell.Those who log in just having the need to make rps and increase their rank should not even bother to read this post.
Honestly..when i voted for Old frontiers with Emain etc i believed that ppl will act diferently on this server...i was wrong, when we had Agramon i ve seen ppl solo alot and respecting one to another.. many of those dont play anymore unfortunatelly..or maybe they roled new chars.i dont know.
As i said before its not the Of..neither emain that is wrong here..people's attitude is the problem and if you will not change you ll end up playing alone.

ever considered those who wanna solo / duo could move odins / hadrians instead of running into the zerg zone?

of course, nix, you can go to hadrains odr odins -sure. But this is not the point of Glacius post.

read it more careful and you get his point. And I think he is right.

Maybe Uth should rethink his attidude of no 8vs8 or 1on1 zone, due to increasing amount of players to grant everyone his most like playstyle

Agree. All soloers now are playing in groups. All newcomers dont respect old player´s playstile.
Nixian you said go odins and hadrians (im agree with this too), but the problem is that all this zergers and campers will move there too. They only make fgs for kill solos, i never saw them attaking groups of 4-5 players. Is their playstile and they can´t understand that after 1-2 wipes this soloers will not back. Yesterday i went to amg with my sb, i started combat with 1 lury, this lury was healed by one bard, and i recived 2 pa, voley and some hits too. I decided don´t back. Some days ago happened the same but vs albs.
All fun for soloers disappeared.

Glacius wrote:lots of stuff written here

Well ... More players, more stealthers -> result: Stealtherzerg at MMG/AMG/HMG in whatever zones.

Accept it or delete all Assassins/Bowstealthers. You cannot prevent it anyways. =)


What will happen is: You can consider yourself happy when you even see the AMG as Alb, because of on Live you could sometimes consider yourself happy when you even made it halfways past that small bunch of trees north-west of the ATK without being stealthzerged.


As told, you cannot prevent it.

Blue said "just wait for a solo solution".

We're waiting I guess. ^^

I sure am.

Zarkor wrote:Blue said "just wait for a solo solution".

We're waiting I guess. ^^

Maybe there will be a zone without grouping... Would still not mean no zergs tho

Glacius if Mids dont stealth zerg ... its because they cant compete others realms with them stealthers.
Especially Albs with scout ( slam 9 seconds) and Minestrel ( Mezz , sos , instant stun )

Like i told many times before OF, emain has 1 milegate, thats amg, closer to ATK of course, you cant expect alb stealthers go somewhere else. They will keep staying amg and leech from fg fight / gang soloers. You cant blame them. Its some players way to do rps maybe their only known way. You know 200 rp +200 rp + 200 rp etc ... from ganking each solo with a fg stealthers its lot of rps in time.

So until people understand that they need to stop feeding them AMG and go other zones, they will do this. IMO hadrian's wall would be the best for soloers because there is no ATK there from wich albs can fastly reinc the milegates.

Agramon with his 6 milegates was way way better for soloers/smallgrps. But OF can be the same if people understand what to do. It's really easy, go emain if you dont see fg alb stealthers AMG. When they do their grp, go hadrians. Stop complaining because its pointless.

And by the way, i didnt stopped playing my SB because of alb groups (like some say), or because i am scared of anyone, i succesfully killed alb fg stealthers with mid stealthers before, and i can kill anyone. Its just that reinc for a soloer its way too long, since we need to run to AMG from MTK (thats 5+ mins) + port timer - its a long way, and also playing only one char must be really boring (and i play this game for fun). Anyway i will play sb again for sure in the future.

Murax wrote:of course, nix, you can go to hadrains odr odins -sure. But this is not the point of Glacius post.

read it more careful and you get his point. And I think he is right.

Maybe Uth should rethink his attidude of no 8vs8 or 1on1 zone, due to increasing amount of players to grant everyone his most like playstyle

even if other players dont play 1v1 or 8v8 or even respect it that is not a problem (yes omg did I just say that?!)

the problem is that those who is tired of these guys think that the solution is getting rid of the zerging people which it is not.. the solution is easy and viable..


not going there

seriously it can't be so hard soloers / 8 manners... move out of hadrians if you don't want adds and zergs

occasionally the zergs will move once in a while to odins / hadrians but they will soon go to emain if they suddenly find out the enemies are gone (because the soloers / 8manners have moved to the other zone instead of feeding rps to the zergers)

I must say I am having quite a good laugh over this topic although i do sympathize. Seriously, small grps getting rolled by fg+ whether it was way back on live servers or here on Uthgard, welcome to OF. If you wanted something a little more tactical and open field I believe they called it NF. I personaly was shocked when i saw the poll showing people wanting to go back to OF! It was nothing but a zerg fest and if you didn't play the right specced class then you were nothing but meat for the grinder because no group would have you.

I see no fun when 10 stealthers atack 1 player that passes AMG gates? if any1 here thinks thats fun plz explain to me cause i dont get it. Last night when i talked with 1 of the alb stealthers from the zerg he said" Hibs started it ! it'stheir fault!" ..what the hell i got to do with the fact that hib stealthers stayed grped 3 hours also in numbers of 8+ at amg and ganked any1 before them, albs had to come and do the same thing?
I dont mind if a fg that roams kills me, its their choice to kill a helpless player or not.. but at least i can see them and hide and they dont stay all day at amg camping , yet to pass AMG and get mezed stuned 3 PA and get shot by 5 other scouts seems stupid to me, if i m atacked by 2 stealthers as a zerker i' d say its suficient dont you think? what is the purpose of their action? if they want to counter another stealth zerg from hib lets say, kill hib stealthers ! and zerg them all day, but not me.
I dont get it thats all, me for example if i 'd have a stealther class i would try to atack in such a manner that would make no stealth classes come again trough that zone so we can have another fight, not to gank him with 8 ppl and leaving him no chance to win.
I have been to Hadrian and Odin's Nixian, and its a nice thing that we have horses now..but there are no players there.. i went once and i found a lvl 44 soloing near htk in Odin's..i /laugh ed /hug ed him etc but in the end i kiled him and went back to emain,and changing Emain with odins is not a solution to what i m trying to say and make ppl understand.
There are still too many of those greedy and selfish players on this server who think about themselfs only and their rps targets, and when i hear them saying- to quote one" I was playing DAOC when you were wearing diapers.." i can really tell that he obviously missed the fun of this game..for him and the others and the fact that he plays for so long didnt change his atitude one bit.

Glacius this is daoc.. it might not be fun to you but to some it is.. and many don't wanna give you a break and will always zerg you down simply because they think/feel they have/want to..

get used to it.. it has always been like that in daoc.. if you can't cope with it move elsewhere.. or build a grp to hunt down those stealthers

seriously.. stop blaming others when you personally can make a difference..

and odins isn't all that dead.. its just "dead" because thats what gets spammed..

if more went there and killed a few guards or spammed /broad about showing they are in Odins.. incs will slowly come.. and if 10+ players keep doing this more action will eventually come.. and when players QQ in /broad about adds etc tell them to go odins.. simply spread the words and be a good example.. that is how you get people to join odins / hadrians

My simple solution for this problem is that I do no longer go into RvR zones... I stay in BGs and do PvM