Can some one explain the formula for block vs. arrows?

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Postby Seyha » Jan 13, 2010 21:54

See title. I'm curious if the staff are still adjusting the block formula. Sour grapes from a Hunter who just had five arrows blocked in a row. :P
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Postby Runis » Jan 14, 2010 02:16

You can have 50 arrows blocked in a row by a shieldtank who uses Engage properly. Until he is ooe.

Maybe that happened.

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Postby Zarkor » Jan 14, 2010 02:46

Runis wrote:You can have 50 arrows blocked in a row by a shieldtank who uses Engage properly. Until he is ooe.

Maybe that happened.


OOE during engage is coming for you very fast. It's -10% endu every hit you take. Trying to engage a dual wielder can be devastating if you plan on dishing out any damage any time soon. ;)

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Postby Musikus » Jan 14, 2010 02:47

dont need engage for it..

MoB4 + 50 shield...record was 34 arrows in a row blocked and i just stood around for damage test..than the scout asked me if i could please remove my shield..

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Postby Sordak » Jan 14, 2010 02:59

There is no To-Hit Bonus when you shoot with bow, so 5 arrows blocked
in a row shouldn't be that uncommon.

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Postby BlackCougar » Jan 14, 2010 04:05

its an unstyled attack, isnt it?

it can happen with medicore bow specs.

and engage costs 15%. on my shar hero lvl 50 :)
are there differences between chars? would be intersting.

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Postby Seyha » Jan 14, 2010 07:15

You get a bonus to hit from using good arrows, and I have a high bow spec (45+16)

It doesn't bother me that classes who specialize in shield can block everything I throw at them. When I get blocked 3 times in a row by a Warden--that's when I start to notice.

But Wardens aren't exactly IMBA, so whatever.
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Postby Satz » Jan 14, 2010 10:22

As you see, 45+16 is not as much as 50+16 +moblock^^
Blocking is somehow wrong on Uth. All nonspec classes have roughly 30% chance to block, and all classes who spec in shield, reach 70% cap pretty easy.

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Postby Yol » Jan 14, 2010 10:32

Satz wrote:As you see, 45+16 is not as much as 50+16 +moblock^^
Blocking is somehow wrong on Uth. All nonspec classes have roughly 30% chance to block, and all classes who spec in shield, reach 70% cap pretty easy.


At Liveservers the Chance to block is 5% if the class cant skill shield. And 25% if the class could skill shield and has not 1 Skillpoint in shields.
You are sure that on Uthgard classes like Druid/Cleric/Shaman reach 30% blockchance? 8O

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Postby Satz » Jan 14, 2010 10:39

Did you play rvr, facing supporters that actually block you 2-3 times in a row repeatedly?

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Postby BlackCougar » Jan 14, 2010 11:35

our guild heal warden with 3+9 parry and 29+6 blade block/parries just about everything you throw at him in a duel.
and hes not even sced for meele^^

he beats my hero in both 2h and s/s mode with a 50 cs, 50 shield, 25 blade and 14 parry easy.

he beats 39 weapon, 50 cd, 42 shield bms easy.
he beats a 50 2h, max valor champ faster then you would believe.

i only could beat him with my vale spamming taunt, sicne with pbt i could land a single chain. but ive got mop4, and that killed him in the end.

still took 6 minutes and loots and lots of parry/block from him.



but hes a dancer and i gues that kinda ****** up the combat calculations. if he stands still, he blocks/parries 1 out of 15 slams, if he dances around, i couldnt land a single slam in 12 duels.

dancing around i never won against his healwarden with a hero/ranger/barely with vw.
standing still he drops with me having 70%+ hp left.

maybe thats worth looking in too.

since usually it would be enough to 1h break bubble, slam, take the 2h and take away half his live, use 1h again, break bubble, anytimer 2h etc. 2-3 times and he should be dead.
and getting most of your 50+cap 2h attacks blocked/parried by a unskilled shield with 3+9 parry... that hurts.

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Postby Zarkor » Jan 14, 2010 14:27

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RR6 D/Q charged Hero 42+16 shield spec vs D/Q+Dex buffed RR6+ Cleric (Cata)...



@Blackcougar, don't stand still in duels. ;)


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