I need a hand with my warden.

I can't seem to find a path or build that suits me. Right now I am 27 and I am specced:

27 Nurture
16 Blades
8 Parry
3 Regrowth

I have no idea what a good warden makes. I haven't played in years and when I did I always played Albion. It's been so long since I played that I'm not aware of changes and what was or what is on live currently, to me it's basically a brand new game.

I've been inquiring in game and seem to get a different answer every time.

I imagine I may get the same thing here, but it's a risk I have to take. And hopefully here people can elaborate in their responses.

I end up soloing mostly. Altho I do feel pitiful in group scenarios. No damage. Poor heals. Chants that mostly do not effect the group. So I solo a lot.

Is Parry truly useless? What RA's should I focus on first? Builds? How do I respec?

Thanks much.

Teslyn wrote:
I have no idea what a good warden makes.

Nothing.
If i were you i would start another char. 27th level is not that much loss. Try bard/druid/eld/menta/bm/vw ~~

That really depends what you wanna do in end game rvr too

in grp a warden is usually a few things:

pbt
dmg add
AOG
interrupts
emergency heals
dot/disease cure
resist buffs


so a grp spec could be:

49 nurture
36 weapon
22 regrow
12 parry

a solo spec could be:

47 nurture
36 weapon
12 regrow
26 parry

or

47 nurture
44 weapon
12 regrow
7 parry

or another mixup of weapon/parry

pbt <--------------------- useless
dmg add <--------------------- low value...
AOG <--------------------- only for tankspam groups AND usable each 10 mins
interrupts <--------------------- with this cc vulnerability? i really have no idea who invented warden rupter on this server ~~
emergency heals <---------------------- if you rupt you cant heal. if you heal you have no time for rupt
dot/disease cure <---------------------- bard + 2 druids are enough for this
resist buffs <---------------------- get menta and have 2nd demezzer instead of wasting slots for wardens


Warden is really not worth playing without shield and cele here... You will be just angry on yourself after reaching certain rr on warden and coming up to the conclusion that these are wasted rps ~~


And dont listen to nixian. He has no clue about wardens it seems ~~

If you really want a solo warden (i warn you: any stealther is better) thats the way you should go:

50 blunt for 10 sec stun
38 nurt for yellow self haste
14 reg
rest parry

As regards ras:
AOG3, purge1, moparry2-3, mopain2-3, ip2

And you need dq and s/c charge preferably + tons of mana/endu/hp pots

Just focus on stunning the enemy and during stun massacre him with aog3 + rr5 with blunt sidechain. And hf waiting 10 mins for ras

BUT any stealther will easily outdamage you in 1v1 combat, and its pretty hard to land stun on them (which is 2nd style after afterparry) cause of their evade.

ofc you can listen to shav and be real pessimistic about the abilities you do get and which some grps actually appreciate

to me a warden isn't a useless class neither is his abilities

and the whole point about saying you can rupt + heal + etc is that you are not stucked at doing one thing all the time, you can swap around and do different things - some people like this flexibility


but ye.. I got no clue about wardens, don't listen to me

nixian wrote:and the whole point about saying you can rupt + heal + etc is that you are not stucked at doing one thing all the time, you can swap around and do different things - some people like this flexibility

Just tell me what for ^^
If you need damage kick warden and take caster/tank
If you need rupter do the same
If you need healing take druid

Warden got lower damage than tanks (70/hit - more like a druid than a tank) crap heals unless you go high reg and spec mana ras (but its useless anyway. You dont play healer in your group. Warden healing abilities are useful just for emergency rezzing players)

The ONE and ONLY reason to group wardens is aog3 needed so much in tankspam groups. But it will be removed from hib with old ras. (skald got it right?)

Thats realistic point of view nixian ^^

AOG might still be a reason to put a warden into a tank heavy grp

then all the rest is just extra fluff that you can draw use from

im not saying wardens are some OMFG nice addition to a grp, but saying they have NO profit for a grp is senseless to me as they do bring some nice things imo

then why you promote a class which has only 1 button to use in group and little chance against stealthers with viper3? ~~

There's simply nothing that justifies taking a warden over another class unless you play 4bms/warden lolol. They have gadgets but nothing that another class can't do better. For example even a nature druid would be a better rupter and a better healer and has CC aswell.

Shav wrote:then why you promote a class which has only 1 button to use in group and little chance against stealthers with viper3? ~~

because if that is the class he wants to play then let him play it and lets help him make the best of it?

nixian wrote:

Shav wrote:then why you promote a class which has only 1 button to use in group and little chance against stealthers with viper3? ~~

because if that is the class he wants to play then let him play it and lets help him make the best of it?

Dunno I'd rather be told my class is not very popular in endgame rvr before I level all the way to 50 and realize it. It's what happened to more than one soul on this server.

Read his post ~~ He wants to make sure warden is a good choice. And i see no reason to lie on him just to give him hope ^^

Shav wrote:Read his post ~~ He wants to make sure warden is a good choice. And i see no reason to lie on him just to give him hope ^^

no he doesn't he asks what a good warden is .. and what their role is..

he doesn't ask if wardens is a good class to play, but what he needs to be doing and how he should be specced in order to be a good warden


he nowhere asked if wardens is a good class or if he should make another class.. so please.. you go reread his post and then help him as I tried to

Teslyn wrote:I end up soloing mostly. Altho I do feel pitiful in group scenarios. No damage. Poor heals. Chants that mostly do not effect the group. So I solo a lot.

Nixian wrote:you go reread his post and then help him as I tried to :Wink:

As i said I have no intention to lie nixian ^^

Shav wrote:

Teslyn wrote:I end up soloing mostly. Altho I do feel pitiful in group scenarios. No damage. Poor heals. Chants that mostly do not effect the group. So I solo a lot.

Nixian wrote:you go reread his post and then help him as I tried to :Wink:

As i said I have no intention to lie nixian ^^

and I didn't .. I just told him what would be the reason for grps to take him in - didn't say that he would be the best class for it but that is what a good warden is supposed to do

and tbh you can see he already knows his grp abilities are limited - hence why i gave him some solo specs - and I see a few solo wardens doing VERY well in rvr so saying they are completely useless in solo fighting is lieing (in my eyes)

less bickering please and let's help this guy instead