At least we'd have a fast port to capitol- and housingzone again then

i hardly do any rvr in emain anymore
i can only speak for myself here but i think many think the same

i used to love doing rvr in lvl 50 rvr zones
i never cared if i was solo, in a pwn grp or in a zerg or in a random grp with no one in ts (fun always had priority)
now, its different

solo is impossible in emain >the only solos i found was stealthers
hw and og are empty
pwn grp > two or three runs then emain is empty
zerg > fun but realm pride missing ^^
random grp > 3 wipes = 5x /qtd
if you have a grp wich is still there after a few wipes,rel and port again, one missed the porter,or one forgot the medaillon, or a supporter needs to be replaced, it takes sometimes up to 30 min or longer to run out again.

in that time the enemies think, we gave up (so log out or do something different).

i never played of on live servers but i belive that for these port timers we just dont have enough ppl playing here.
btw all these discussions or polls here in the forum are useless cause the majority dont read the forum
maybe implement instant porters or lower the port timers to 2 min. just for a test period.
it would show if its really the porters wich kill rvr in of

as posted in other threads before of was nice, but not all was good.
maybe there should be a path between of and nf

Shav wrote:Back to nf emain as main rvr zone ~~

Perfect solution

my worthless opinion OF<NF

I have played both here and on live.

I make also no rvr anymore, because the portersystem is so badly, horse quest is missing, Megalodon is missing (The news are much harder to kill),
I was at vote against OF.
NF Wanted.

greetz Spartl

OF QQ unleashed.

I rather have a working solution for OF than dropping it instantly because some options are 'out of the question'.

I'm sure a "double-port" feature was implemented on Live for people who forgot their necklace or just missed the first port. The mages would port again 30 seconds after the first port.

Can we implement this on Uthgard? There's nothing worse than zoning into Svasud just in time to see the group on the pad vanish.

Yep it seems like another OF QQ .. BUT the fact is that RvR is basically dead .. only strong high RR Pugs are running around mostly or theres a zerg at Amg .. no wait .. theres allways a Zerg at amg

Point is .. i like OF 19824981512 times more then i do NF .. yet past 2 months have shown that NF and constant action (Solo/Duo/Trio/u name it) is alot better then OF and Getting zerged or overrun by RR10 ppl

Yet as i see myself .. we could find a solution to that from the BGs .. as u can see theres LOADS of action in there .. everyone that cant/dont want to run in Emain just reroll some twinks and go to BGs .. might aswell ask why .. is it the port timer or the fact that its possible to solo/duo there without getting zerged ..

My 2 cents : Uthgard is not a Copy/Paste from Live .. so i suggest giving hibs the possibility to port (Pad or anything) to Emain .. like Mid/Alb can do .. u can reduce the timers on port every week or raise it to find the right balance .. fact is that Mids/Albs can go afk on pad and do whatever they need while hibs have to drive thru 2 zones while being wary of inc on every sec .. if hibs need afk it will cost them time and possible inc while half grp is afk = Death .. yet the lack of hibs in Emain .. also a way to stop the zergs at Amg is to let the Hibs port in the Emain keep .. thats just in the middle of both Gates and wont attract that much attention to amg as it is now .. its being zerged cause its the middlepoint of Alb+Hib counter .. so all mids go there also .. QQ about hibs getting a permanent keep to Port ? not really.. for more action in emain i would give 2 keeps to the hibs ..

To make it simple .. every realm has a spot to port in Emain = u can control the Realm action by port timers .. too many albs = Longer port timer(or shorter so albs wont come in a big bunch) = Basically a copy of BGs it might work or not .. but atleast its a start

Its easy to QQ on my tought .. but atleast i tought of a solution that MIGHT work or not .. but i think it would be worth a shot u have to control the crowd somehow .. and atm BGs show what people like

In live 8min timer on Ports and Hibs running thru 2 zones to get to emain was for around 2-300 people that were constantly running that route and porting .. so there was some action 24/7 .. with Uthgard i see Pugs logging cause they dont want to wait another 10-15min for next inc cause they killed the other grp .. and only 2 grps running.

Good Luck

On live servers the port was not 8 min but 15 min. We already stripped it down to this. Average porting time after death is 4 minutes on Uthgard. This is not the reason why solo and small group RvR is weak. The same problem happened to Agramon until we changed Agramon to a BG layout.

As I said before in another thread a possible solution would be to reduce timers of porters and introducing horseroutes for Hibs when there is low population (<40 players) in RvR (not in prime time). A general reduction of port timers and introduction of general accessable horse routes in OF was rejected by the staff.

Still on the table is a static BP bonus for e.g. Odins gate to attract solo's and small groups to a certain location. See the other thread discussion about this.

let ppl port to those keeps their realm is owning?

Maybe with a timer so that u cant port in an attacked keep or sth like thist...

erwondal wrote:let ppl port to those keeps their realm is owning?

Sounds like NF again...
Beside that it would be heavy customization it will introduce new problems and whining inside a realm when a keep is taken because the enemy doesnt respawn as fast as before. We have all seen that happen before.

well atleast i hope u see somekinda problem here.. then im satisfied and can hope that something will be done ..

Btw @ Blue .. average porting time is around 4min on uthgard for albs and mids .. how long will it take for hibs to get to emain ? i suppose its quite longer than that .. as i stated before every grp has someone who needs afk fast and mids/albs get that chance on the pad .. hibs afaik have to wait before they head out

And btw. was Changing Agramon to BG style bad ? .. as i remember RvR action was quite good 24/7. Had nice 16v8, 8v8, 4v4, 1v1 fights there without a problem atm i just have a feeling that current OF is more Stealther style .. that states the fact that everyone are rolling stealthers

There is a reason why a lot of people prefer the bgs. If you're going to customize crap anyway like you're doing with the timers and other things then why not just do something that most people like?


RvR Solution: Move level 50 rvr to a BG. All sides will have equal spawn timers, access and a central place to fight.

Darkness Falls / relicSolution: Keep old frontiers as is. Remove magic and str bonuses from relics and replace them with something else (exp bonus or realm point bonus. Anything except making classes more powerful!)

or even better .. remove BGs and force people to RvR lol

Zaar wrote:or even better .. remove BGs and force people to RvR lol

Yea, do that and you can say good-bye to portion of the playerbase.