Making the RR gap smaller.

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vangonaj
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Postby vangonaj » Dec 22, 2009 14:24

Remember that all high rr players were low rr too, and for them beginig was hard too. Now is rr problem tomorrow will be any different problem... Stop cry and go play.

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Postby Satz » Dec 22, 2009 15:51

If you really want to have easy-rp-gain, ask admins to implement a looser-award!

example as FORCED TITLES:
if you loose 1vs1 with a simmilar-rr-opponent, you get a free title: Looser!
if you loose 2.000 times vs an enemy of simmilar rr, you get a forced title: Looser Enforcer!
if you are a stealthclass and have less than 25% kills beeing solokills, you get a forced title: master ganker.

or a serious looser-award...
If you get killed by more enemies than double the amount of players in your group, your group get 1k rps each, since youve been unfairly zerged in a game.
There is absolutely no need for any type of rr-gainbonus. the rr-grows is fine itself. to get rr3, you only need ~60k rps. to get from rr8 to rr8,1 you need ~160k rps. thats quite fine id guess and i do not see any reason for a change tbh, besides the titles :)

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Postby mfassben » Dec 22, 2009 17:34

Imo the bonus you get on live should somehow be implemented here. I don´t mean the easy mode more RPs per kill that came somewhere around Catacombs, but a bonus for killing enemys that are of a much higher rank (e.g. 3l+ rrs above you). This would help lowbies to get a bit more enpar with Highrank GGs or even Pugs, and make RvR more fun for them (maybe it would also lure more players into 50s RvR, which would be a good thing, because there are still very little active RvR players for a shard with 600+ pop during Primetimes).
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Postby Satz » Dec 22, 2009 18:13

Would be kinda nice, if you guys actually played on uthgard, because this bonus is kinda implemented for several years already.

killing lowbies gives me something like 1k rps per kill, while killing player of much higher rank than mine, in case i encounter any, gives me about 1,5k rps when soloing, and 8vs8 looks simmilar.

For killing a low group as a highrank fg gives you something around 1,5k rps, while killing a highgroup with a lowrankfg gives roughly 2,5k.

Ofcourse, its impossible to notice this difference if you constantly run in zerg, or gank solos with groups, but well, i dont care about your way to play this game, and therefore im not interested in any excuses, why you did not notice this bonus yet.

This cannot be compared to live where you get 3k-8k rps per kill, but well, i can live with it.

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Postby zaszeadora » Dec 22, 2009 19:44

Satz wrote:If you really want to have easy-rp-gain, ask admins to implement a looser-award!

example as FORCED TITLES:
if you loose 1vs1 with a simmilar-rr-opponent, you get a free title: Looser!
if you loose 2.000 times vs an enemy of simmilar rr, you get a forced title: Looser Enforcer!
if you are a stealthclass and have less than 25% kills beeing solokills, you get a forced title: master ganker.

or a serious looser-award...
If you get killed by more enemies than double the amount of players in your group, your group get 1k rps each, since youve been unfairly zerged in a game.
There is absolutely no need for any type of rr-gainbonus. the rr-grows is fine itself. to get rr3, you only need ~60k rps. to get from rr8 to rr8,1 you need ~160k rps. thats quite fine id guess and i do not see any reason for a change tbh, besides the titles :)



On live i had a rank 6 infil that had very few solo kills cause i allways play with a real life friend that was a sorc and didnt want to change his class, we had a lot of fun , pre TOA , and just launched SI, we both was odin´s friendly and did rank 5+ there, why i should be ashamed cause of that, im better if solo or if we can kill 5 peeps with 2 non buff non friendly class.

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Postby mfassben » Dec 22, 2009 23:56

You didn´t really get the point did you Satz?But lets flame some more even if we don´t have any clue who we are talking to/what we are talking about :)Way to go Imba Ava Merc! :D...

Of course you get more RPs for killing a RR10 char then for killing a RR4 one.
The thing that was discussed in this topic (at least by those who understood what the topic was about) is that low RRs (e.g. something like rr3-4) should get more RPs for killing a RR10 char then a RR10 char that kills a RR10 char,so they can compete on equal level faster,and to give them some incentive to join Emain at all,knowing they will grow to a good RR faster,even when not chainkilling enemy grps.
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Postby Satz » Dec 23, 2009 01:25

And thats exactly my point!

you already get more rps for killing high rr, you already need less rps to get to a rr-up, you already get more rps for killing ppl when youre grouped

want more rps? want faster rps? go rvr, dont cry on forums it was not possible, run solo, kill solos, support solorvr in OG/HW, since emain is supposedly camped by zerg. ive been running solo and smallgroup in emain lately, in lowpeak hours, and it lasted roughly 15 minutes to find any inc, and in most cases it was a group of speeder, suppoerter and 2 stealthers. as long as you dont change your attitude about running solo, youll never gonna get your solorvr, that is actually the best way to get rps with any class.

ill tell you a small bonus, a little story...

some days ago, a minstres who was doing guardmissions in odins started crying on broad that a BM was camping amg and he wasnt able to pass. guess what, i went there only to find out that it was a menta+bm duo...
killed both and waited roughly 20 minutes for them to return, but they never came back. why is that? because, instead of trying to get rps, most just give up, go to forums and start crying for easier gameplay.

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Postby jrhadden » Dec 26, 2009 19:52

Getting higher rank is already getting exponentially difficult...

Why put another scaling function in front ?

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Postby Zaar » Dec 26, 2009 21:19

whatever u decide here .. im probably agreeing with it .. aslong as theres is a change .. atm compared to NF RvR and OF RvR theres a huge difference .. at prime time in OF u will get like 20k rps if ur lucky .. in NF it was around 50k .. so u could see the progress .. also the fact that OF is not duo/trio friendly zone people either zerg or sit in the safezones :(

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Postby salbei » Dec 27, 2009 02:51

i remeber getting 80-120 rps for a 8v8 kill here not too long ago - its already got doubled so stop crying and play.

there won´t be anymore rp/xp bonus coming soon unless a meteor hits 2/3 of the staff.

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Postby zubasa » Dec 27, 2009 20:20

salbei wrote:i remeber getting 80-120 rps for a 8v8 kill here not too long ago - its already got doubled so stop crying and play.

there won´t be anymore rp/xp bonus coming soon unless a meteor hits 2/3 of the staff.


I remember getting 25k rps/hour and having 300+ kills per death, but thanks to OF there's only little rps, most grps logout after they wipe and EVERYONE adds like they're insane :roll:
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Postby koruun » Dec 27, 2009 21:42

zubasa wrote:most grps logout after they wipe and EVERYONE adds like they're insane :roll:

No difference to agramon on that point imo.
Why ToA-RAs advance high RR groups more than old RAs do:
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Postby hopscotsch » Dec 27, 2009 22:52

zubasa wrote:
salbei wrote:i remeber getting 80-120 rps for a 8v8 kill here not too long ago - its already got doubled so stop crying and play.

there won´t be anymore rp/xp bonus coming soon unless a meteor hits 2/3 of the staff.


I remember getting 25k rps/hour and having 300+ kills per death, but thanks to OF there's only little rps, most grps logout after they wipe and EVERYONE adds like they're insane :roll:


roll another hib and own bgs.

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Postby Weia » Dec 27, 2009 23:57

zubasa wrote:I remember getting 25k rps/hour and having 300+ kills per death, but thanks to OF there's only little rps, most grps logout after they wipe and EVERYONE adds like they're insane :roll:


For some reason, I can't help but think of a Full Metal Jacket quote here.

"Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I bet you're the kind of guy that would ****** a person in the ass and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to give him a reach-around. I'll be watching you."
(Since the word filter will probably butcher it : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093058/quotes , 14th from the top)

No wonder your enemies don't want to play with you if can't share and hog all the rps :P

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Postby jrhadden » Dec 28, 2009 00:31

OF is working ...

This is part of classic ..

I guess .

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