Solo/smallman RvR and OF

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Postby Happuch » Dec 14, 2009 20:54

nixian wrote:once again it is proven that a lot of players want 2 things:

1. instant 50 like rvr maps with zones for every playstyle
2. instant action

2 things I hope Uthgard never gets

soloers? tired of having no incs?

go hadrians / odins at prime time, and tell your solo friends to go there too

this goes for hibs, mids, and albs

if everyone started to do that problems would be solved

give it some time, it will change when people start using their brain instead of their tears and mouth (well mouth could improve the situation if you just spread the right words ;))


Mh, did you EVER played an Instaserver?^^
It's like Port kill dead port again kill dead and so on and so on.
Agra was far far faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from Insta-RvR (@Blue: Nothing with fastfood-RvR)
I guess for Speederclasses (and so for zerg and fgs) it is fastfood, but only cause they are in grp!
So plz PLZ stop saying this shouldn't be an Insta-Server, cause it never was, it isn't and it never will be!

I wasn'T in OF often with my Inf, so I can't really say sth about it, but I hear it from every corner ig and Forum that Solo-RvR is nearly dead.

The Problem is, Nixian, that most ppl think like "They say all Soloers go to Odins, I don't know if it works, I wait for good responses"
Ergo: Noone goes there, cause there isn't already Solo-RvR^^

And btw: This is a f*ing game, so why should I waste up to 15 min between any inc Oo
I never understood why (especially) MMOs have such long waiting times. Okay, to keep players longer ig, but hey, this is a freeshard...

I hate the Insta-Action, but I hate the long waittimes too, so a little waittime (like Agra) is perfect.

Just my 0.5 cents

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Postby vangonaj » Dec 14, 2009 20:56

Nymeros wrote:Blue we're not only whining, we've all been to those zones, for hours even, tried to get people to go there but no one wants to go!


I see hib stealthers every time at amg, and they cant port.

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Postby Nymeros » Dec 14, 2009 21:01

Ok mate, why aren't YOU at Hadrians/Odins? Give me a few char names, I'll ask around if you've been seen there lately. :roll:

People are at AMG becouse they hear from other people that there is no action anywhere else, and they SEE FOR THEMSELVES that there is no killspam from those zones.

Blue wrote:
Nymeros wrote:We all know there are other maps. And we all know they're empty.

If all think so they will stay empty and the whining about zerging at AMG won't stop. We can't give a valid reason for solos to meet in other zones without attracting FG's to these locations too.


Blue we're not only whining, we've all been to those zones, for hours even, tried to get people to go there but no one wants to go! Port and run times are too long for solo play and two zones are too big when you don't know if there's anyone there.

It's been a month and solo RvR is totally dead, no one I talked to can remember when it was like this on Uthgard.

Read Zarkors suggestion in the other topic or at least think about implementing Aggramon (without insta port!) then, no need to ban fgs there, at least for a month or so as a trial or a demo, to see would it work.

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Postby nixian » Dec 14, 2009 21:07

I know you aren't speaking of me Zarkor but I wanna give a few reasons why I haven't been there or in game for that matter :p but I have been busy irl (exams, parties, etc)

and to Happuch

I disagree, agramon was a very "fastfood insta kill like" experience for me
sure it wasn't port, kill, die, port, kill, die ending up with 5 res sickness on you, but it was very close sometimes (esp. for albs)

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Postby arnius » Dec 14, 2009 21:08

Nymeros wrote:
Blue wrote:
Nymeros wrote:We all know there are other maps. And we all know they're empty.

If all think so they will stay empty and the whining about zerging at AMG won't stop. We can't give a valid reason for solos to meet in other zones without attracting FG's to these locations too.


Blue we're not only whining, we've all been to those zones, for hours even, tried to get people to go there but no one wants to go! Port and run times are too long for solo play and two zones are too big when you don't know if there's anyone there.

It's been a month and solo RvR is totally dead, no one I talked to can remember when it was like this on Uthgard.

Read Zarkors suggestion in the other topic or at least think about implementing Aggramon (without insta port!) then, no need to ban fgs there, at least for a month or so as a trial or a demo, to see would it work.


That entire Agramon idea isn't good, you can promote solo rvr enough in OF just that staff needs to be behind it.
We went from NF to OF for a reason and going back to a part of NF thus seems very odd and disturbing
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Postby vangonaj » Dec 14, 2009 21:09

Nymeros wrote:Ok mate, why aren't YOU at Hadrians/Odins? Give me a few char names, I'll ask around if you've been seen there lately. :roll:


Now i don´t need go odins or hadrians. Last time i play in fg and i haven´t problem for find rvr.

And there aren´t kill spam in odins and hadrians because all soloers are whining in this topic.

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Postby Nymeros » Dec 14, 2009 21:18

So you don't solo anymore, ok. Ever wonder why you stopped?


And about the Aggra issue:

We have Tajendi on this server even though most people hate ToA so those people that like PvE can go there. Some of the best items ingame are there and they are custom.

There is no reason not to get Aggramon even if most people don't like it if it has no instant ports or anything else to make it better to OF lovers. Just one more map, it's not even custom made.

And for the hundredth time, I am only suggesting this as an ALTERNATIVE to OF customization, not as a demand or ultimatum.

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Postby vangonaj » Dec 14, 2009 21:21

Look page 4 in this topic and you will see why and WHEN i stoped play sb.

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Postby arnius » Dec 14, 2009 21:25

Nymeros wrote:And for the hundredth time, I am only suggesting this as an ALTERNATIVE to OF customization, not as a demand or ultimatum.


Well my bg was an alternative as well but most people don't like that idea and I can understand their logic behind it, but none the less a seperate zone should be more bg like then Agramon or such.

I would love to have 2 aditional bg's

1) for solo'rs*

2) for 50's* wanting to be 5l0 and join the frontiers (as I said sevral times before, 4L2 50's have it hard on this server)

* with a player cap of 8players per realm, and 5L4 as cap, after that go Odins orso
**with 4L8 or 5l0 as cap and with a max of 16man per realm in the bg.
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Postby Nymeros » Dec 14, 2009 21:33

I wouldn't mind a solo bg, if the staff would consider it, but without those limits.

However I think lvl 50 bg has been proposed quite a few times and turned down every time, so people kinda gave up on it.

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Postby arnius » Dec 14, 2009 21:37

Nymeros wrote:However I think lvl 50 bg has been proposed quite a few times and turned down every time, so people kinda gave up on it.


I think I've been after attemps a lot these past few months, :P
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Postby Happuch » Dec 14, 2009 21:49

Okay Nixian, it was really close sometimes (It always was funny to try to achieve triplesick cause somebody camped the tower :D) but with the actual porttime and the distance to Milegates in Agra it would be better^^
But I don't want to whine or bring some arguments pro/con, cause I rarely play 50 RvR.

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Postby celvin » Dec 14, 2009 22:45

people dont run solo/small groups cause they are unable to kill 1v1 or 2v2 ...

i dont like these porting system, it takes ages just to start, even if you are lucky, u have to wait over and over again if u die... 60min rvr = 40min standing around waiting for porter to come.. If i remember right, the porters were included on a 3000 player server to cool down the zerg situation, since we dont have 3000 player we may TRY to change to PORTER BACK TO PORT INSTANTLY. Maybe it brings some more fun into alll that OF stuff.

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Postby Blue » Dec 14, 2009 23:25

The porters are a balancing issue for the distances the home realm has to run. On live the porters were on 15min timers. If Mythic were able to connect all 3 realms in a giant zone then they propably had not implemented the porters but let all run from the borderkeep.
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Postby Sveya » Dec 15, 2009 11:31

Nobody answered my question, why MMG Emain is empty all the time. I stayed there for hours and barely found anyone. As soon as you got to AMG you get zerged.

Another thing regarding solo RvR and 1vs1 .. I had a 1vs1 vs a Scout (close to my RR). A high RR Infi watched our duel, i was very happy because he didnt add. I won and guess what happened, the infi leeched me. I was very dissapointed^^

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