I want to congratulate all albs because now is only one realm in this server who play daoc.
Today we tried reraid our relics and were wiped by albs. Before start raid we spamed in broad/alli/lfg for raid, and only build little zerg.
When we destroyed first gate albs started arrive, and in 15 min they killed us. I dont know if they were 2, 3, or 4 fgs, but i only know that they went help their realm mates for defend their relics. The same happened 4 or 5 days ago, and 3 days ago when hibs tried raid too.

This isn´t only 8vs8 farm rps game, this is rvr game and all should help their realm mates, when they need your help. When all realm mates only do own things this realm doesn´t work. And now seems that only albs go help when their realm need them. I don´t know what happens in hibernia, but in midgard all are only interested in farm rps and pve.

/clap Albion, while all are crying about port timer, adding... you play daoc.

As an alb its pretty fun to get raided almost every night. What usually happens in alb when enemies start taking keep is there is almost always people up for reraiding keeps and defend. I think maybe its because of the big US pop on albion that we are able to defend this late at night. Sure it nice to see a realm working together.

You're telling me this doesn't happen on midgard? I can see albion having relics for quite some time if mid and hib don't co-ordination and plan these raids. Casual raids often don't work anymore since they implemented the realm message. People need to understand this.

Hibernia and Midgard maybe suffer from having too many players trying to be 1337 rp farmz0r.

vangonaj wrote:This isn´t only 8vs8 farm rps game, this is rvr game and all should help their realm mates, when they need your help.

You should understand that everyone has their fun in their own way. Some like 50 vs 50. Some like raiding relics. Some like keep fights. Some like 8v8. Some like to solo. Some like PvE. Some like OF. I don't.(dont get it wrong, i respect the staff's work on OF)

One thing is sure, a realm is weak without those "1337 rp farmz0rs". If you dont respect someone's gameplay style then they might not respect yours. Think of this before blaming anyone. You should understand both sides before that.

Example: while i am on shadowblade i fight an infi, and a mid group adds my fight and kills him, ruining my fun. Why i should log a group char when that mid groups needs help? It's the same thing in 8 vs zerg.

And by the way, its not about RP farming, its about winning. Some do have fun by doing pickup groups and whatever rvr even if they win or loose. Some don't. Winning a fight 50 vs 30 doesnt make you a good player or let you test your skills.

I hope i made you understand a little how the things are.

I personally saw the call for the raid, i was logged on a twink in wilton, and i didnt came to help because raids are boring with many wall campers most of the time, while i was having incredible fun at that moment.

and none wanna follow aspirina to their doom ^^

Oh come on it was the same in Midgard a while ago...

This times come and go!

Runis wrote:One thing is sure, a realm is weak without those "1337 rp farmz0rs".

Yep a while ago Alb had a lot of players aswell but less did RvR (only guilds like KT that usually dont Raid, Zerg etc.) - but to me it seems like all the often so called "pve-albs" went to RvR.

Runis wrote:

vangonaj wrote:This isn´t only 8vs8 farm rps game, this is rvr game and all should help their realm mates, when they need your help.

You should understand that everyone has their fun in their own way. Some like 50 vs 50. Some like raiding relics. Some like keep fights. Some like 8v8. Some like to solo. Some like PvE. Some like OF. I don't.(dont get it wrong, i respect the staff's work on OF)

One thing is sure, a realm is weak without those "1337 rp farmz0rs". If you dont respect someone's gameplay style then they might not respect yours. Think of this before blaming anyone. You should understand both sides before that.

Example: while i am on shadowblade i fight an infi, and a mid group adds my fight and kills him, ruining my fun. Why i should log a group char when that mid groups needs help? It's the same thing in 8 vs zerg.

And by the way, its not about RP farming, its about winning. Some do have fun by doing pickup groups and whatever rvr even if they win or loose. Some don't. Winning a fight 50 vs 30 doesnt make you a good player or let you test your skills.

I hope i made you understand a little how the things are.

I personally saw the call for the raid, i was logged on a twink in wilton, and i didnt came to help because raids are boring with many wall campers most of the time, while i was having incredible fun at that moment.

You missed the point.

It's not about fun or how ppl like to play. It's about the solidarity in the whole realm.
We're in a war with Hibernia and Albion and if dem dirty albs steal our great Horn of Valhalla and Thor's Hammer i get really angry and want it back FFS!
It's the same when enemys are raiding our Keeps.

But you seem to be missing that attitude like much mids do, too. And thats pretty sad because it adds a lot more fun to the game if a realm works together.
Rather than farming 2 more rps for your bg twink you could help your realm and reraid our beloved relic.

infi wrote:

Runis wrote:

vangonaj wrote:This isn´t only 8vs8 farm rps game, this is rvr game and all should help their realm mates, when they need your help.

You should understand that everyone has their fun in their own way. Some like 50 vs 50. Some like raiding relics. Some like keep fights. Some like 8v8. Some like to solo. Some like PvE. Some like OF. I don't.(dont get it wrong, i respect the staff's work on OF)

One thing is sure, a realm is weak without those "1337 rp farmz0rs". If you dont respect someone's gameplay style then they might not respect yours. Think of this before blaming anyone. You should understand both sides before that.

Example: while i am on shadowblade i fight an infi, and a mid group adds my fight and kills him, ruining my fun. Why i should log a group char when that mid groups needs help? It's the same thing in 8 vs zerg.

And by the way, its not about RP farming, its about winning. Some do have fun by doing pickup groups and whatever rvr even if they win or loose. Some don't. Winning a fight 50 vs 30 doesnt make you a good player or let you test your skills.

I hope i made you understand a little how the things are.

I personally saw the call for the raid, i was logged on a twink in wilton, and i didnt came to help because raids are boring with many wall campers most of the time, while i was having incredible fun at that moment.

You missed the point.

It's not about fun or how ppl like to play. It's about the solidarity in the whole realm.
We're in a war with Hibernia and Albion and if dem dirty albs steal our great Horn of Valhalla and Thor's Hammer i get really angry and want it back FFS!
It's the same when enemys are raiding our Keeps.

But you seem to be missing that attitude like much mids do, too. And thats pretty sad because it adds a lot more fun to the game if a realm works together.
Rather than farming 2 more rps for your bg twink you could help your realm and reraid our beloved relic.

You are first person who understud what i want say. I don´t say about gameplay. I only say if you want your 1vs1 8vs8 zerg vs zerg is your game play, but if your realm need you all should go together and help.
All only say: albs have 6 relic now, they are overpowered now... but no one helps.

CalvoHP wrote:and none wanna follow aspirina to their doom ^^

Hahahahaha /slap

infi wrote:

Runis wrote:

vangonaj wrote:This isn´t only 8vs8 farm rps game, this is rvr game and all should help their realm mates, when they need your help.

You should understand that everyone has their fun in their own way. Some like 50 vs 50. Some like raiding relics. Some like keep fights. Some like 8v8. Some like to solo. Some like PvE. Some like OF. I don't.(dont get it wrong, i respect the staff's work on OF)

One thing is sure, a realm is weak without those "1337 rp farmz0rs". If you dont respect someone's gameplay style then they might not respect yours. Think of this before blaming anyone. You should understand both sides before that.

Example: while i am on shadowblade i fight an infi, and a mid group adds my fight and kills him, ruining my fun. Why i should log a group char when that mid groups needs help? It's the same thing in 8 vs zerg.

And by the way, its not about RP farming, its about winning. Some do have fun by doing pickup groups and whatever rvr even if they win or loose. Some don't. Winning a fight 50 vs 30 doesnt make you a good player or let you test your skills.

I hope i made you understand a little how the things are.

I personally saw the call for the raid, i was logged on a twink in wilton, and i didnt came to help because raids are boring with many wall campers most of the time, while i was having incredible fun at that moment.

You missed the point.

It's not about fun or how ppl like to play. It's about the solidarity in the whole realm.
We're in a war with Hibernia and Albion and if dem dirty albs steal our great Horn of Valhalla and Thor's Hammer i get really angry and want it back FFS!
It's the same when enemys are raiding our Keeps.

But you seem to be missing that attitude like much mids do, too. And thats pretty sad because it adds a lot more fun to the game if a realm works together.
Rather than farming 2 more rps for your bg twink you could help your realm and reraid our beloved relic.

the only reason you can give him to tempt his ass into joining a relic raid would be to point out the obvious 10% melee damage bonus. even he'd love that.

everyone would. the only catch is, that everyone says "Someone else is going to do it, I don't make much difference"

1. I dont play on a RPG-Server. - I dont have to respect the seriousness of the big war between realms.
2. What Runis said is just true.
-> Image: If you dont have those 8vs8 players, you'll just have zergers, pve'rs, soloers and so on.
In my opinion you learn in 8vs8 fights better to play your class, because there is more pressure, one of your own action can change the whole situation.
In a zerg you just have to mob and be more players than the other realm.
-> Moreover a gm written me that I have to respect other gameplays. Okay. I will, if they will respect mine.

yeah we stomped you mids out

You missed the point.

It's not about fun or how ppl like to play. It's about the solidarity in the whole realm.

WRONG

It's a game.

Games are for fun.

So it's about fun )

But it's right, when someone of your allies (the realm is your ally) needs help, go and help them. It's fun/rps/better social contact for everybody

No need to be a "Omg-I-just-want-rps-in-a-8vs8-fight"-grp.

McPain wrote:yeah we stomped you mids out

Yes you stopmped greys in df XDDDDD

/worship mcpain

Herm666 wrote:1. I dont play on a RPG-Server. - I dont have to respect the seriousness of the big war between realms.
2. What Runis said is just true.
-> Image: If you dont have those 8vs8 players, you'll just have zergers, pve'rs, soloers and so on.
In my opinion you learn in 8vs8 fights better to play your class, because there is more pressure, one of your own action can change the whole situation.
In a zerg you just have to mob and be more players than the other realm.
-> Moreover a gm written me that I have to respect other gameplays. Okay. I will, if they will respect mine.

My post isn´t about zerg is about help when your realm need you.

now intopic, i dont find fun in zergs and im not into it unless there is another realm zerging, or a relic raid, however i agree the focus in the game is RvR, we should be ready to answer the call in each realm.


sometimes is good to remember there are persons who are playing for fun, seems some players find their fun making another players just quiting the game.

The real hardcore fun was only on Mordred.
And then ToA came.

CalvoHP wrote:now intopic, i dont find fun in zergs and im not into it unless there is another realm zerging, or a relic raid, however i agree the focus in the game is RvR, we should be ready to answer the call in each realm.


sometimes is good to remember there are persons who are playing for fun, seems some players find their fun making another players just quiting the game.

/clap