suffice to say the realms are separate, but equal. Where is mid/hib spec AF or plate armor? Where is midgard's baseline lifetap? Stealth class in chain...etc...hunters had chain though in beta hehe, been gimp since they took that away (sorry hunters, but weak to slash is fail). The realms are just different.

Sonnenschein wrote:Normally it should be like that:

Melee Realm = Midgard
Casterrealm = Hibernia

And Albion should be the "hardest" Realm with Spec AF (and with OF only Realm with BOF)

At the moment it seems to be very unbalanced since:
RM does most casting damage (darkness spec) - only Caster that can compete with the dmg value would be a Firewizard (Firewiz in a Alb group hahahaha - lol ~~)

Savage defenitly does most melee dmg...

Mid = only realm that can take 3 prim. Healclasses in group and still don't loose utility Healer is in fact the only primary Healclass with such high Utility as every 3 of the spec lines are rly pretty nice

Midgard has AE instant disease (only), and only realm that can afford having red buffshears in group

So...... what was the Strengh of any other Realm? ^^

Rm is probably one of the weaker casters at the moment on uthgard because they are usually the only caster in a melee group, whereas hib/alb casters tend to run with atleast 1 debuffer.

In a mid group there aren't really 3 primary healers. A Shaman should be busy rupting/diseasing/shearing so he wont be healing that much. A Paci is similar, rupting mezzing etc. Aug healer is the main healer in a mid group...
Hib groups tend to run with 1 bard and 2 druid, so technically have more healing capabilities than mid group - let alone if they included a warden (i know i know)

pbae aoe insta disease is not quite the same as aoe insta

RM one of the weakest casters? When was the last time you actually played this game?

RM is the wizard-counterpart on midgard, without PBAOE, he can have everything else a wizard can +speed +nearsight +bladeturn +has the chance to be a selfdebuffing class, like an ench is!

so you read the first 4 words of my sentence?
As i said before rm's usually are running in tank groups and so have to deal with high resistance on enemies (40%+ usually) as there will most likely not be a RC rm in the group to debuff their damage.

Ofcourse the rm can debuff his own dmg, by speccing Runecarving - but then he gives up Nearsight and pbt... so isn't as much use to his group.

4 words:

Neju wrote:RM is probably one

beeing alone as usefull as cabby, wizard and half of a thuerg and still being considered one of the weakest? then, whats about a wizard, cabby, ench, eld, and half of the theurg?

Did you ever consider bispec or trispec? or did you not know that you must not spec 50 in one line, making all others useless?

RM in comparison to hibs:

eld+ench without pet, mezz and pbaoe, everything else he has, in addition to a 219 DD and pbt.

RM is the caster with most usefull gimmicks(casterskills) combined of all 3 realms!

Sorc can only mezz, demezz, debuff wiz dmg lines, deal some dmg with 209DD, and give speed, the most usefull caster on alb.

Eld can mezz(weak), root, DD 209, DDsnare, desease, ns, DDdebuff, pbaoe, gtaoe, debuff useless dmglines:) but no speed, most usefull caster on hib.
Dont you see a contradiction?

Neju wrote:so you read the first 4 words of my sentence?
As i said before rm's usually are running in tank groups and so have to deal with high resistance on enemies (40%+ usually) as there will most likely not be a RC rm in the group to debuff their damage.

Ofcourse the rm can debuff his own dmg, by speccing Runecarving - but then he gives up Nearsight and pbt... so isn't as much use to his group.

well rm works pretty well with trispec or you can group 1 darkness rm and 1 rc rm without losing any utility and melee damage really.Thats definitely not possible in other realms. And you obviously lie cause even darkness rm has 10% damage&debuff spell.
Ahm, and albs dont have cold resis cause of no friar

Im not disputing the fact that rm's are a good class with alot of utility, im saying that the current group setups people run, they don't have the luxury of hitting targets with low resistances (even with the 10%self debuff).
Same goes for Single eld in a hib group for NS.

Shav wrote:Ahm, and albs dont have cold resis cause of no friar

Paladin has a cold chant

topic is about celerity and wtfpwn op midgard anyways, so continue to QQ about them

Neju wrote:Im not disputing the fact that rm's are a good class with alot of utility, im saying that the current group setups people run, they don't have the luxury of hitting targets with low resistances (even with the 10%self debuff).
Same goes for Single eld in a hib group for NS.

Its players fault they cant use rm properly. Doesnt change the fact its uncomparable class to menta wizard or ench as regards utility, and still has the strongest dd spell you can get on uthgard.

And paladins usually got 10% cold chant which means you hit on total 36% cold resist on alb char IF paladin is close enough to make his chant work (1500 seems a lot but well, albs kite)

Paladins have cold chant, yes, ok, but they have to
a) switch it with endu and probably other chants so its only up for 6 out of 8 seconds if the twisting is done perfectly
b) stay in range of all groupmember or the resi chant drops
c) stay alive or the resis drop instantly

while castable resists stay up for 10% minutes and dont drop when other groupmembers die or run out of range.

I have never seen a Paladin use his resist chants.
He could twist them all and endu/heal/DA on top of that, but activating a chant costs 5 power, so even with endusong, the Paladin would be ooE after 2 or 3 twists.
Its possible, but impracticable.

Where is your 40-50% Cold Ressis in a Albgroup? ^^

Eld can be only Caster in Hibgroup aswell.

Wizard is the counterpart - but much weaker (weakest caster on this server!!!)

Enchanter doesnt have that much Utility as a RM has (Only Debuff is interesting here)

Pachealer cant root but shaman most time does.
Yeah Shaman is only Ruptchar - but rr5 is the best in daoc ever

And as I said 3 primary healers I meant that Midgard can run with 3 Healers since it has such high Utility + Tanks do a lot of dmg so you CAN run with 3!
(shaman is not a primary healclass but secondary)

daoc exists now for about 8 years, and mids always had celerity, so what exactly do you guys try to achieve?

Neju wrote:so you read the first 4 words of my sentence?

QQ run cookie run
neju another hib that left hibernia for midgard or albion..

Melodexx wrote:neju another hib that left hibernia for midgard or albion..

for both I don't play stealther, so not enough group on hibernia

Sonnenschein wrote:Pachealer cant root but shaman most time does.

Fail^^

Didnt u play a pac healer on uthgard?xD

erwondal wrote:

Sonnenschein wrote:Pachealer cant root but shaman most time does.

Fail^^

Didnt u play a pac healer on uthgard?xD

this is funny in soooo many ways