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Neju
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Postby Neju » Nov 25, 2009 18:14

Every realm can make good 8mans :D

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Postby hopscotsch » Nov 25, 2009 18:16

Trauben (purple with green cloaks) used to own in agra a year ago. Not nearly as much frustrated scrub-QQ about theurgists or reavers back then as celerity and savages now.

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Postby jeddite » Nov 25, 2009 18:18

the problem is the unbalance between tanks and caster.
we need mota with new ra or old ra on the server for better balance.

than lolbion will be the easy play realm as usual

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Postby Gerbald » Nov 25, 2009 18:49

jeddite wrote:the problem is the unbalance between tanks and caster.
we need mota with new ra or old ra on the server for better balance.

than lolbion will be the easy play realm as usual


Mid Casters will take as much advantage of faster casting as Alb and Hib.
First RR13 was Agron, a Runemaster on my old Server Lyonesse, btw.

I think casters in general were better of with eiter classic+old RAs OR NF with TOA system (+%castspeed, +%manapool, resist piercing, morphs, Brittleguards, etc). They way it is now, classic + new RAs, favours tanks and with that tank groups and we all know who already had the best tank setups that just got made better.

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Postby Vashna » Nov 25, 2009 20:13

So you say your group let the Theurg cast Pets on all of your supporters and you did not attack, CC or iterrupt him? You think that was smart?


So you say your group let the healer cast cele, heal, mezz, amnesia to rupt all and let all group full life and so on? You think that is smart?

So you say your Assist train went to kill the Tanks and failed and you did not attack the healers and casters? You think that was smart?


So you think rupt cleric and casters to kill tank is a fail? Why all good alb group do that with theu spam+sorc pet+caba pet? You think it is smart?

still have more dps than hib and alb grps lol

Did you ever made a alb tank group with 3 merc? 3 flurry, 3 possibility to stun? Merc is a so huge DPS but it seems you don't catch it.

healer,healer,sham,skald,runie,zerk,zerk (or savage),warr...i dont really see the problem there.

Of course we can take skald and rm, of course we can win with that, of course we already did it, that's not the point. It's like alb, it's not the best setup, just a good one.

and btw albs and mids are fine 8v8...hibs suck the most.

So now turn on hib... Yeah hibs have so disadvantage, yeah they are so weak, yeah their caster group is so bad... Come one, stop QQ for a second and try to play maybe... QQing on forum don't bring you skill itg...

Anyway, i was sure this thread was destinated to turn on this way so i will stop post, this kind of discussion are pointless in front of close-minded ppl.

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Postby Happuch » Nov 25, 2009 20:28

Well, if there is a Hibcastergrp they have a chanter with them. Ergo 50% Heatdebuff. Ergo No matter if resis or not^^

But right, the little grps I saw in my time with my inf were without Friar, which is not understandable.

Not only dmg, resis and basebuffs, heals also (well, not good heals, but heals!)

They aren't sensless if they are rooted.

Just try some setups with different classes and try how you can own most.

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Postby Satz » Nov 25, 2009 20:43

Could you please explain then, what slot to put the friar in?
sorc cleric cleric pala is a basic 4 for every albgroup, right?
theurg, cabby and now you decide for two tanks/hybrids, so what do you take?
friar minstrel? 50%resi, fullbuffs, second demezz, speed, sos, cc, but where is dmg? thats the missing part of this setup.
Ok, lets swap minstrel, cabby and the theurg for 3 tanks, mercs/armsmen/reaver, youve got dmg, buffs, cc, but no ns neither rupt nor second demezz.
Please, tell me an albsetup that has at least as much as a usual midsetup or hibsetup would have:
heal heal sham skald rm zerk svg warr
bard druid druid eld menta bm bm hero

btw, i forgot to tell you.... friar does not deal dmg, nor can he rupt well... Friar is about same as a thane but without slam, castDDs, instantDDs and backsnare.

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Postby jeddite » Nov 25, 2009 20:54

Gerbald wrote:
jeddite wrote:the problem is the unbalance between tanks and caster.
we need mota with new ra or old ra on the server for better balance.

than lolbion will be the easy play realm as usual


Mid Casters will take as much advantage of faster casting as Alb and Hib.
First RR13 was Agron, a Runemaster on my old Server Lyonesse, btw.

I think casters in general were better of with eiter classic+old RAs OR NF with TOA system (+%castspeed, +%manapool, resist piercing, morphs, Brittleguards, etc). They way it is now, classic + new RAs, favours tanks and with that tank groups and we all know who already had the best tank setups that just got made better.


agron was the first rr 13 because he play over years in setgroup, play a lot and play the same char the hole time. not because runemaster is so powerful... rofl

every caster will profit to cast faster.
as realm albion will profit the most, because they got the best caster.

however give us mota with old or new ra system, pls.

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Postby Reklawl » Nov 25, 2009 23:51

jeddite wrote:agron was the first rr 13 because he play over years in setgroup, play a lot and play the same char the hole time. not because runemaster is so powerful... rofl




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Postby Gerbald » Nov 26, 2009 00:33

jeddite wrote:(...)
as realm albion will profit the most, because they got the best caster.(...)


Thats your opinion and thats ok.

I have not found THE BEST CASTER in Albion yet though.
Care to tell me what alb class is the best caster in DAoC and why?

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Postby Satz » Nov 26, 2009 00:34

Ofcourse its the wizard!
megaDMG!
megaBOLT
megaROOT
megaPBAOE
megaGTAO
megaAOE
megaDD

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Postby Ironberg » Nov 26, 2009 02:14

euro servers blew compared to us servers, competetion wise anyways.

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Postby jeddite » Nov 26, 2009 02:42

don't discuss about things that everybody know they are right.
thx

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Postby Gerbald » Nov 26, 2009 07:28

jeddite wrote:don't discuss about things that everybody know they are right.
thx


i lolled

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Postby Sonnenschein » Nov 26, 2009 10:10

Normally it should be like that:

Melee Realm = Midgard
Casterrealm = Hibernia

And Albion should be the "hardest" Realm with Spec AF (and with OF only Realm with BOF)

At the moment it seems to be very unbalanced since:
RM does most casting damage (darkness spec) - only Caster that can compete with the dmg value would be a Firewizard (Firewiz in a Alb group hahahaha - lol ~~)

Savage defenitly does most melee dmg...

Mid = only realm that can take 3 prim. Healclasses in group and still don't loose utility Healer is in fact the only primary Healclass with such high Utility as every 3 of the spec lines are rly pretty nice :D

Midgard has AE instant disease (only), and only realm that can afford having red buffshears in group :P

So...... what was the Strengh of any other Realm? ^^

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