Bard songs, twisting.

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Thalien
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Postby Thalien » Aug 18, 2009 20:13

99% instrus and no problems
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Junia - Bard
Audrina - Ench
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Hush
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Postby Hush » Aug 18, 2009 22:04

Alright after reading the replies here I tried some things, and after changing my blue lute (I used a blue lute and a yellow drum) to an orange lute and an orange drum, I can now twist like before.

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Postby Sonnenschein » Aug 18, 2009 23:37

Hmpf..... My statement wanted to point out that there might be a Bug... but okey if it helped u.. :D

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Postby Zappo » Aug 22, 2009 14:41

Zarkor wrote:
Reklawl wrote:I do ;<


I ment Zappo.

You just get ur ass to 50! :P


hmmm rarely miss a pulse cuz of lag or switching instru too late.
yes, there are some to miss, but endu-user(tanks^^) dont really can feel that in fight.

but i can imagine that there's a bug and thus should be tested by some1 with more money than me :D

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Postby Zarkor » Aug 22, 2009 17:04

Sonnenschein wrote:Hmpf..... My statement wanted to point out that there might be a Bug... but okey if it helped u.. :D


I think there might be a bug somewhere, yea. But to solve it it migh take rather long with the possibility of creating even larger bugs, so for now I'll just try getting myself an MP drum or drum and lute to solve it..

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coars
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Postby coars » Nov 18, 2009 23:33

i have a problem too with endu loss,

im 50 bard , all instrus 99%, full sc with all stats capped but NOT NURTURE, long wind 1.

i played bard for 6 years on live servern, and i know how to switch instrus.

but here i loose much endu, seems i lose endu song nearly instant when ich switch back to speed in endu run.

Someone said now nurture can be the reason, cos i only have the 43 skilled points, but on live server there never was such a problem.

can anybody confirm that or tell me another reason?

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Postby Melodexx » Nov 19, 2009 03:13

in really good 8vs8 fights i never have endu as enduuser
using pots all time ...

i also hear alot about bard is a bit .... here.....

but its not fault of uthgard stuff cuz they cant change thîngs that goa/mythic made...

but hib is always differênt... we have no instant aoe great things
we have to acctivate endurane..

also dmg from bm to berzerker is like 2bm = 1 berzerker .. i got both..

and sinca Of also hîb becomes love push =)

btw sometimes laags really in fights also if u slam targets they laag away.. every one ..

but we dont cry here right zappo^^
we charge atk mtks svasud or sauvage with bm rr5 or SoS and spamm /y to get ênemys out to know there is also hädrians/odins gate too loooooooooooooooool

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Postby Zarkor » Nov 19, 2009 04:21

Melodexx wrote:in really good 8vs8 fights i never have endu as enduuser
using pots all time ...

i also hear alot about bard is a bit .... here.....

but its not fault of uthgard stuff cuz they cant change thîngs that goa/mythic made...

but hib is always differênt... we have no instant aoe great things
we have to acctivate endurane..

also dmg from bm to berzerker is like 2bm = 1 berzerker .. i got both..

and sinca Of also hîb becomes love push =)

btw sometimes laags really in fights also if u slam targets they laag away.. every one ..

but we dont cry here right zappo^^
we charge atk mtks svasud or sauvage with bm rr5 or SoS and spamm /y to get ênemys out to know there is also hädrians/odins gate too loooooooooooooooool


Wat?

PS: crafted myself an MP drum the other day and all works fine and dandy now, should try it coars! ( I know it's lame, but if it works, it works, and that's what u're after atm I bet ;) )

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Postby Amadeth » Nov 19, 2009 11:56

It's not about MP instruments, just the level of the instrument vs. character level.

You must use yellow or higher con instruments for your songs to play optimally. When your instrument drops to blue, you'll not be able to twist.
<strong>FIX TEH PROFILE PAGE SO I CAN CHANGE MY SIG PLZ</strong>

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Postby Gerbald » Nov 19, 2009 12:17

I use the same instruments for many levels now.
They were orange when i started using them and i could twist with no problem at all, keeping 2 songs active.
Now they are blue and i lose speed all the time.
But its the same instuments and my skill was always at level.
Thats strange.
I will of course get new instruments now, but i still dont get how gaining levels makes me lose an "ability".

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Postby Der_Eisbaer » Nov 19, 2009 12:38

Amadeth wrote:It's not about MP instruments, just the level of the instrument vs. character level.

You must use yellow or higher con instruments for your songs to play optimally. When your instrument drops to blue, you'll not be able to twist.


Well, if this is really the case on Uthgard this is most probably (I am not 100% sure, but 99% + 0.x% :wink: ) a custom change.

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Postby Zarkor » Nov 19, 2009 14:14

Amadeth wrote:It's not about MP instruments, just the level of the instrument vs. character level.

You must use yellow or higher con instruments for your songs to play optimally. When your instrument drops to blue, you'll not be able to twist.


Maybe not for Minstrels, but definately for Bards, just level one to 50, get your armor SCed and try it with a 99% drum, I can assure you it won't work. ;)

Of course it's something I don't see you doing immediately hehe, it's just too much effort imo.

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Postby Amadeth » Nov 19, 2009 16:05

Zarkor wrote:
Amadeth wrote:It's not about MP instruments, just the level of the instrument vs. character level.

You must use yellow or higher con instruments for your songs to play optimally. When your instrument drops to blue, you'll not be able to twist.


Maybe not for Minstrels, but definately for Bards, just level one to 50, get your armor SCed and try it with a 99% drum, I can assure you it won't work. ;)

Of course it's something I don't see you doing immediately hehe, it's just too much effort imo.

well I seriously doubt that bards and minstrels use different formulas regarding their songs, and I suppose you do too.

but what exactly do you imply? what difference does a MP instrument make opposed to a 99% quality one? what did you notice?
really, I'm asking because I never used a MP instrument. I have however used 85% qua instruments and had no problem twisting songs as long as they were yellow con or higher. and when I switched to a crafted 99% instrument I don't remember noticing any improvement.
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Postby Zarkor » Nov 19, 2009 17:58

Amadeth wrote:well I seriously doubt that bards and minstrels use different formulas regarding their songs, and I suppose you do too.

but what exactly do you imply? what difference does a MP instrument make opposed to a 99% quality one? what did you notice?
really, I'm asking because I never used a MP instrument. I have however used 85% qua instruments and had no problem twisting songs as long as they were yellow con or higher. and when I switched to a crafted 99% instrument I don't remember noticing any improvement.


When I play speed song, then switch to endu, both songs will stay on, but when I switch to playing speed again, the moment I do, my endurance vanishes and I miss the pulse all the way till after I played speed AND endurance again.

With an MP drum, endu stays long enough to last it out till my 2nd endu song ends, which makes a perfect loop, like speed song.

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Postby Amadeth » Nov 19, 2009 19:00

I usually twist charm with speed song, but charm is a chant and does not depend on the instrument I use. Gonna have to try twisting speed and power/heal songs both with 99% and MP. Still kinda weird tho...
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