Since my sweet and beloved green emain macha kicked in , yesterday i had teh chance to roam as fg , i was nostalgic ofc, but i noticed something funny, we were 8 man grp roaming and we encountered some alb fg and hib fg and we had some nice fights.. we won some..we lost some, after 2 hours or so when we were in a fight vs a fg alb , some other fg mids came..like 2 of em and everything became a big zerk for our enemy grp. TBH cant recall what grp was the mid one that add-ed.. so we roamed some more .. found again the alb grp duno if the last one that got zerged by mids , but shortly after when we were wining a 2 nd alb grp came and zerged us to hell . This zerg thing from albs hapened 3 times afterwards either we ve meet em 2 fg linked.. or 2nd one was coming fast as soon as the other one was in a fight.

Whats the thing with this atitude? I can roam 8 fg and i want to have decent 8 ppl VS 8 ppl fights, but my felow mids can come and add me, its nothing i can do,! at least pay atention to wich grp u r fighting with and wich grp is add/ing! and add and zerg those ones , at one point Caroli' s grp was wining over Enigma guild from mid, and we circled and let em win and cause of our non add policy we got our asses mezed and died to the same alb grp wich played well i must admit we also had RA s down, cause we stood like dumbs watching how our mids die from close range, we laughed, and albs did well for kiling us , was our mistake, but when i get zerged 5 times .. i do get ****** off.
This is for the players who still have dignity and honor left in 'em and play this game for fun and like to have 8 ppl vs 8 ppl fights , those who dont..can zerg me

I'm sorry to say, but even though many of us might not enjoy it, it's one of the old DAoC principles to beat down everything that moves... I'm afraid there's nothing you (or anyone else for that matter) can do to change the fact that you're still realm enemies.

Fortyseven wrote:I'm sorry to say, but even though many of us might not enjoy it, it's one of the old DAoC principles to beat down everything that moves... I'm afraid there's nothing you (or anyone else for that matter) can do to change the fact that you're still realm enemies.

I respect my enemy, and if you or anyother do calls himself such a great player, he should learn about his enemy and respoect him and not add him when he played fair . I like principles, without them we would be like goats on this planet.

You should try to show more respect to your own realmmates. One thing about some players's attitude here which I really hate is the dumb-as-hell thinking about nooblike realmmates who only "add" into own fights against the beloved 8on8 fights.
Why are the enemies your private property? Why do some players think they can tell others how to play the game? Who the hell do they think they are?

I can understand that it's no fun to see the enemy paying back what happened before by getting more and more groups together, but isn't that just DAoC? Why can't you do the same or if you can't just avoid Emain and go to Odin's Gate or Hadrian's Wall? Too many of you forget one thing way to easy: Everyone wants to have fun. And your realmmates don't have fun when they do not get a chance to participate in fights due to the pseudo elite telling them not to add. But they DO have the same right to fight against realm enemies. If you cannot accept this, you are playing the wrong game. Maybe Guildwars would fit better. Or even Counterstrike.

war is not fair.

and before you start to flame me i played more then 6 years 8vs8 on live servers.

War also has tactics and strategy. Zergs don't.

A good zerg has a leader and a good leader has a plan or tactic.

Glim wrote:war is not fair.

and before you start to flame me i played more then 6 years 8vs8 on live servers.

Who flamed you ??? ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) i just narated a story about last night's RVR scenario , and as i said, those who dont respect the 8 vs 8 fights can zerg me np:) i understand them.

Nayru wrote:You should try to show more respect to your own realmmates. One thing about some players's attitude here which I really hate is the dumb-as-hell thinking about nooblike realmmates who only "add" into own fights against the beloved 8on8 fights.
Why are the enemies your private property? Why do some players think they can tell others how to play the game? Who the hell do they think they are?

I can understand that it's no fun to see the enemy paying back what happened before by getting more and more groups together, but isn't that just DAoC? Why can't you do the same or if you can't just avoid Emain and go to Odin's Gate or Hadrian's Wall? Too many of you forget one thing way to easy: Everyone wants to have fun. And your realmmates don't have fun when they do not get a chance to participate in fights due to the pseudo elite telling them not to add. But they DO have the same right to fight against realm enemies. If you cannot accept this, you are playing the wrong game. Maybe Guildwars would fit better. Or even Counterstrike.

I m not telling to any1 how to play Daoc , i just wanted my felow enemies to know that there still r grps that respect and like 8 vs 8 fights, and ocasionaly we died tryin' to do that like last night , i respect my realm players more then you think , and i only flame when i m choping a lil luri that has no chance and he s about to die.. and 3 others jump to hit it from fg..that ****** me off !:))

Glim wrote:A good zerg has a leader and a good leader has a plan or tactic.

Yeah..plan is to ZERG..tactic is to ADD more players..))

Glim wrote:A good zerg has a leader and a good leader has a plan or tactic.

Screenshot or it didn't happen.

In my oppinion being killed by a zerg in this game is everything against this game stands for, its a little paradoxal tho.

Being killed by 25 when you are 8 is against your work for your RR - useless, against your level, your spec, your items, everything.

It's like you work hard to get a status and then you see that all doesnt matter because you can't win anyway vs less prepared players.

It's like:

- Oh man, i did the 30th dragon raid and i finally got that item and now my char can compete.
- And what was your dmg on that enemy with that dragon item?
- I don't know, i was killed by 10 enemies before i did any hits.

Waste of time anyone?

If you are killed with your FG by 25 enemies then the logical consequence would be to gather more realm mates to make it 25vs25 and get it fair again? Don't know whats so difficult to understand. Other players would get happy to be involved in this game and not excluded by elitist FG's.

Sure if you try to kill the ongoing stream of enemies with your single FG then it shouldnt surprise you that there are more than 8 enemies in the RvR zone that you will have to fight. When we have 200 players in OF its just the normal case that you WILL encounter 25 players at once. If you still run in a FG well you get your unfair situation.

This game is not made for 8vs8, you play it this way but its not intended this way. 8 is just a group cap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpSn1-adEcw

The so called "random zerg" is one thing. Full groups who are running nearly every day adding is another thing. They must be looking for 8vs8 or they wouldn't run with the same people everytime. But then again they add every fight they see (name caaling allowd? Lets name them Amgine) and thats where it doesn't make sense to me.

"if you get killed by 25 then form a zerg of the same size"...Lets see there this would end. There are some 8vs8 groups from one realm who band together and run 16 slot. No random or even "FG" is going to win against them. Even "random zergs" are going to get killed everytime. Doesn't sounds like fun and one side is going to quit soon.
On a small server like uth you want to have one realm (or even two) quit or its going to be booring in rvr.

Glacius wrote:

Glim wrote:war is not fair.

and before you start to flame me i played more then 6 years 8vs8 on live servers.

Who flamed you ??? ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) i just narated a story about last night's RVR scenario , and as i said, those who dont respect the 8 vs 8 fights can zerg me np:) i understand them.

sorry, maybe i'm a little bit "flame paranoid" from live server forums

I already mentioned that in german forums but I guess parts fit here too.

Well, I understand Nayru that its a Realm vs Realm game but to be honest for a lots of people it has become more, they want compete in a "fair" way. And btw you won´t see any 8 vs 25 in cs though

But why do you always blame the so called elite ones to be the bad asses, don´t they have the same rights to play the game their way?

But the solution is pretty simple, now. OF is big enough for all types of preferred playstlye: Zerg, 8vs8, Small Groups.

We just need to establish these Zones.

Blue wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpSn1-adEcw

Nice vid, i like

And what u see clearly till minute 1 is the problem with the gates. I am really thankfull they are not implementet here!
Oh man i can't count the zergs i lead into death trying to rush through these gates... the only tactic that worked to get through the gates was: rush with 100+ in waves, till the enemy is out of mana, of course the first 50 at least didnt survive this xD

And on topic: i totally agree with murax. Whats so hard about switching zones after getting zerged and addet several times in emain?