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koruun
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Postby koruun » Nov 14, 2009 18:58

There's no system in which everybody is all happy, and what we see here might be a small, fractional amount of players complaining, while the majority enjoys OF. I count myself to the second group, enjoying the almost classic-like feeling that comes with OF. Maybe there can be done some little tweaks to the OF-system, but that's it imo - Uthgard is a declared classic shard.

At the end of the day it's not important how many people are arguing or criticising in the forums. Important is the number of players on Uthgard in the next months and that number is the only truth in this matter.


Anyway, thanks to all staffmembers who worked on OF or the serverchange, sacrificing their free time into such a project so that hundrets or maybe, in the next months, thousands of players can enjoy it.
Why ToA-RAs advance high RR groups more than old RAs do:
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Postby jrhadden » Nov 14, 2009 19:03

Certainly if you might go over this forum.

I am consistent with myself. I never wanted OF, and that is still valid. I want NF Emain xD

Nevertheless. I have to admit the staff put an awesome work here to present OF - thus shall be respected !.

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Postby Rami » Nov 14, 2009 19:08

I love this. I love OF. I love you Uthgard staff <33333

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Postby Cyan » Nov 14, 2009 20:19

Ban some mid players if they run 4 fg sticked, i know the game was designed to realm vs realm, but is boring to give free rps to noob mids that can win only with 3 fg sticked together.

Or implement old RA, is a bit boring to see mids inc albs with sos and instant mezz, u can't make a classic server half way, or it's classic with all classic stuff (including old RA and sos only for albion etc) or it's TOA, artifacts and new stuff.

This is my opinion, atm albion is weak vs rest of the world.

In Love :P

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Postby nixian » Nov 14, 2009 20:49

Cyan wrote:Ban some mid players if they run 4 fg sticked, i know the game was designed to realm vs realm, but is boring to give free rps to noob mids that can win only with 3 fg sticked together.

Or implement old RA, is a bit boring to see mids inc albs with sos and instant mezz, u can't make a classic server half way, or it's classic with all classic stuff (including old RA and sos only for albion etc) or it's TOA, artifacts and new stuff.

This is my opinion, atm albion is weak vs rest of the world.

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hibs are having the same issues

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Postby Satz » Nov 14, 2009 20:51

Y, hib is troubled aswell... bards have sos & instamezz, so they can even do both with 1 char, dont need healer+skald.

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Postby nixian » Nov 14, 2009 21:01

Satz wrote:Y, hib is troubled aswell... bards have sos & instamezz, so they can even do both with 1 char, dont need healer+skald.


was commenting this:


if they run 4 fg sticked, i know the game was designed to realm vs realm, but is boring to give free rps to noob mids that can win only with 3 fg sticked together.

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Postby Neju » Nov 14, 2009 21:08

Don't lump all mids together please.... not all of us are running on stick.

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Postby tvpro » Nov 14, 2009 21:18

Albion is weakest realm at the moment. To win with albion group you need very good players. Even when i played with best groups - we still loose to lower rr pugs. why? Because the RA that made albion good have also been given to hib and mids. Albs NEED these RAs unique to them otherwise we might just see ourselves as free rps. No point to play my alb char again until we have old ra.

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Postby panachier » Nov 14, 2009 21:29

tvpro wrote:Albion is weakest realm at the moment. To win with albion group you need very good players. Even when i played with best groups - we still loose to lower rr pugs. why? Because the RA that made albion good have also been given to hib and mids. Albs NEED these RAs unique to them otherwise we might just see ourselves as free rps. No point to play my alb char again until we have old ra.


there are people that never learn from error...

NF is a crap, everybody (but some forum whiner) knew it. Some of us did decent post about why it shouldn't come. staff leaders didn't listen and were proud to propose a "Classic server" but have no idea about DAoC fonctionnement. Now it's there, the problems are there too... enjoy with it.

bringing old RA won't be a solution but another problem. I know lot of work has been done for Old Frontier, and it's hard to recognize you did crap and delete month of work. As architect i know this feeling, it's hard to do and you try to patch your work to do it a bit less crappy.

Few month ( years) ago deleting port camp in agra killed the RvR, and killed our guild cause nothing left to do in game. Since OF is released i already see the effect... no more RvR, reroll other twink, test other realm, but certainly not enjoy lvl 50 RvR

But on another point of view, it's the begining, people zerg cause of that, maybe soon the situation will be better... but area will always be to large, porting time sucky, necklace useless, and to much keeps...

bring us back new emain ;-)

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Postby DarkRef » Nov 14, 2009 21:40

It doesnt matter how many bad points there are to OF, I will say this:

It's more fun than agra :)

maybe if so many people are really unhappy, in the future making old emain the main RvR zone, with hib tk at crim, could be better, of course this isnt so 'classic'. I still think just the old emain map is really big enough for all types of RvR.


Something you can change at the moment Blue, is to move the necklace merchant next to the platform.

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Postby Blue » Nov 14, 2009 21:45

Pana you better shut up. Sorry to say that in these words but your critic is borderline. If you don't want to play here then go and use your time elsewhere. We will not miss you.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

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Postby Eclipsed » Nov 14, 2009 22:11

Blue wrote:Welcome to OF. You wanted it you got it.


see , you give them what they want, and most of them start to judge right away and demand custom changes. Will be the same when and if OF RAs are added. That is the problem with shards, the mass crying has an effect on the staff sometimes and they get what they want and the server takes another step in the wrong direction. Uthgards goal is to be classic, not arcade with instant action. People are so use to the die , release, return policy of earning rp. Being able to find quick RPs just makes everyone not care if they die, because they can return fast. But currently on OF now, you are penalized for dieing. If you die, you have to wait to port or wait for action because you got a long run ahead of you. Maybe that will encourage people to be smart on how they play.

So id like to suggest to the staff, to stick to the currect path and give the server settings a chance, and try to avoid custom changes to make the mass die,release,return policy kids happy. Make them earn there RP like they should have to , as it was back in OF. Only changes id suggest is /warmap of some type in game that works with OF, and maybe a NPC at the portal area that tells you how long you have to wait, for the next port to OF. And make that type of porting for OF only. BGs you die and pop up in the BG still, so that isnt needed to be delayed to go there, and porting to cities and so on is just a hasel now, from that area. Its the OF that needs the delay.
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Postby flyhunter » Nov 15, 2009 00:07

Blue, you cannot expect everyone will say : WOAAH OF IS amazing !!!

Pana explained his point of view, I agree that was not in a clever way as usually. But he also stated the situation in his guild and that's a fact.

You're behaving like you cannot stand criticism, that's sad....

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Postby jrhadden » Nov 15, 2009 00:08

Agree with fly. This time pana didnt really cross the border. did he ?

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