Like title says i want to spec 34+16 hammer and 34+16 axe 50+16 Laxe. I was speced 50 axe 50 Laxe at begining and many said that having 35+15 axe for zerker here on uth is anough because the extra points give you higher weap skil but dont actually translate into effective dmg, so i speced 39 +15 axe afterwards and 50+15 Laxe , and indeed with laxe style i still hit good but with axe i hit lower. If this hibrid spec will work i l lbe happy ,because i ll be albe to use crush vs those nasty stealthers and BM /bards and slash vs others ... what do you think ?

Glacius wrote:Like title says i want to spec 34+16 hammer and 34+16 axe 50+16 Laxe. I was speced 50 axe 50 Laxe at begining and many said that having 35+15 axe for zerker here on uth is anough because the extra points give you higher weap skil but dont actually translate into effective dmg, so i speced 39 +15 axe afterwards and 50+15 Laxe , and indeed with laxe style i still hit good but with axe i hit lower. If this hibrid spec will work i l lbe happy ,because i ll be albe to use crush vs those nasty stealthers and BM /bards and slash vs others ... what do you think ?

I think this spec is underrated and extremely useful. Go for it if u wanna exploit what nobody else exploits and be the ultimate dmg dealer.

As zarkor said. I loved 2 dmg types with LW hero.

You had nice idea, I suggest you to try it.

Only bad side of your idea is: with lower spec in weapon, you will get lower damage with 2h weapon i guess.

Demiurgo wrote:You had nice idea, I suggest you to try it.

Only bad side of your idea is: with lower spec in weapon, you will get lower damage with 2h weapon i guess.

True, but who needs 2h weapons when playing a zerker?

Zarkor wrote:

Demiurgo wrote:You had nice idea, I suggest you to try it.

Only bad side of your idea is: with lower spec in weapon, you will get lower damage with 2h weapon i guess.

True, but who needs 2h weapons when playing a zerker?

Switch 2h when you get a tick of celerity?

Zarkor wrote:

Demiurgo wrote:You had nice idea, I suggest you to try it.

Only bad side of your idea is: with lower spec in weapon, you will get lower damage with 2h weapon i guess.

True, but who needs 2h weapons when playing a zerker?

2h = more melee range than 1h, if you are hammer spec you can chainsnare who try to run away for example.

Edited: wrong info sorry.

Erdie wrote:

Zarkor wrote:

Demiurgo wrote:You had nice idea, I suggest you to try it.

Only bad side of your idea is: with lower spec in weapon, you will get lower damage with 2h weapon i guess.

True, but who needs 2h weapons when playing a zerker?

2h = more melee range than 1h, if you are hammer spec you can chainsnare who try to run away for example.

Please post a source.
I think both got 127 units - maybe that's the same logic as small lurikeens run as fast as big trolls

Speccing 34+16 is not an exploit but a spec based on Wyrrds researches (Wyrrd Spec). Wyrrd was the first player who found out that each skillpoint beyond 50spec was only offering a marginal increase of effective damage even though the weapon skill was equipollent rising. His researches built the fundament for todays well known specs like:

39+11 (RR1)
38+12 (RR2)
...

His research was a great contribution especially to dual wielding classes as until his researches were publicised players usually maximised their speclines believing it would also offer a drastical increase to their damage.

Razzer wrote:

Erdie wrote:

Zarkor wrote:

Demiurgo wrote:You had nice idea, I suggest you to try it.

Only bad side of your idea is: with lower spec in weapon, you will get lower damage with 2h weapon i guess.

True, but who needs 2h weapons when playing a zerker?

2h = more melee range than 1h, if you are hammer spec you can chainsnare who try to run away for example.

Please post a source.
I think both got 127 units - maybe that's the same logic as small lurikeens run as fast as big trolls

Video incoming soon, don't worry

Just post screenshots with valid ranges - pure data.
Want to see a 2h hit with a higher range than 127.

Razzer wrote:Just post screenshots with valid ranges - pure data.
Want to see a 2h hit with a higher range than 127.

Ok tests done in Uthgard, if some1 want can do some in Live for see if it's correct, and open a bugreport if it isn't.
PVE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR96TJl_qZ0
PVP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJH3FNMYIA

As we can see from the PvP video the meleerange of 1h and 2H is the same: 127/128. So my affermation was totally wrong, sorry. Maybe i said so because a my misunderstanding about the meleerange when i am following a target who is running away to me. Btw, I also did a check on the DOL code and i found those case:
- if attacker and defender aren't moving the melee range is: 128;
- if defender is moving and attacker isn't the melee ranger is: 128+32 = 160;
- if defender and attacker are moving the melee ranger is: 128+32+32= 192.

EDIT:
I just did some test on official server and the meleetarget seems correct.

Erdie wrote:

Razzer wrote:Just post screenshots with valid ranges - pure data.
Want to see a 2h hit with a higher range than 127.

Ok tests done in Uthgard, if some1 want can do some in Live for see if it's correct, and open a bugreport if it isn't.
PVE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR96TJl_qZ0
PVP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJH3FNMYIA

As we can see from the PvP video the meleerange of 1h and 2H is the same: 127/128. So my affermation was totally wrong, sorry. Maybe i said so because a my misunderstanding about the meleerange when i am following a target who is running away to me. Btw, I also did a check on the DOL code and i found those case:
- if attacker and defender aren't moving the melee range is: 128;
- if defender is moving and attacker isn't the melee ranger is: 128+32 = 160;
- if defender and attacker are moving the melee ranger is: 128+32+32= 192.

little OT but not less important:
Blue tweaked this code a little bit cause of the DAoC engine, like I wrote you in the PM.
Here is a link about this topic:
http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?n ... elee+range

OI ! leave melee range , i came with some feedback about the spec , maybe its just me, but i have the impresion that dmg variates more with 35+15 and that it hits more with the smaller values, sometimes using doublefrost for example i hit 200 dmg, and sometimes 150 dmg, nasty variance that ****** me off but what can we do..nothing tho i posted about this variance some time ago . i am 35+16 hammer and 35+16 axe atm , yet thinking of specing 40 + in both if i can, havent checked to see how much skill points i got to use, but i think it wil llead to an increase in dmg.
Just so you know, on oficial beeing arms and using 1h , 35+15 slash hits lower then 50+15 slash with amethist slash style:P, it should be the same here:) ..if not..then its buggy