ForumWhy do you not just... run out?
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why should gimp group should try to bring more gimper noobs that would even not be level 50?
maybe the solution would be to stop to run with 1 or 2 fg in agra from 11am to 5am when the other realms have no group to compete. maybe split the groups would be a nice solution. i remember a group with who i was grouped in agra, we fought hibs that logged out. no more enemy group around so some of us decided to split group or go solo. but the rest of the group invited other people to be FG and leech on solo fights. so no enemies to compete with your group so split and stop camping TK. If ever a strong group logs in, it'll still be time to merge groups <img src="http://www.fallenearth.fr/daoc/daoc2.php?player=Panachou">
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I read this multiple times; and I cannot understand what everyones problem is.
Albs wipe mid/hib People QQ Hibs wipe alb/mid People QQ Mid wipe alb/hib People QQ and post their problems and whine on the forum. So? Anguish knows how to run an 8 man; I have grouped with them; and I listen to them while they are discussing tactics. They are experienced players. Deal with it. Have I been killed while leveling in Agra? Ya. Have I tried to solo and get rolled in Agra? Yep. It's part of the game; get used to it and grow up; if you can't handle the RvR or a strong experienced 8 man rolling over you; don't bother posting on the forum and whining and complaining about it. Tactics can wipe any group; and high RR can wipe any group. The point of this is; Albs Win - Hibs/Mids QQ Hibs Win - Albs/Mids QQ Mids Win - Albs/Hibs QQ It's a never ending cycle; no matter what you do; or what you say everyone is going to complain about something. But you are never going to get a high RR if you don't have some tough-skin and determination. |
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Not at all, this thread ain't about QQing, at least it shouldn't be. It's about why nobody goes out to RvR anymore. If this is due to Zubasa and his gang ripping up the place then yes, I'm afraid QQ is the reason why nobody is going out, which would be a very sad thing. However I think we've all seen this before with the Alb trauben groups wiping every group around. But please, don't equal losing to QQ, that's really not helping the community at all. |
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Nobody going out, why?
high mids roll over every other fg easily due to svgdmg, highRR and kiting. Hibs dont like going with more than 8 ppl, but eagerly add more for smallgroups, if they ge wiped 3vs3, they come back with 6 or 8, but if they get wiped 8vs8, they quit. Albs tend to try running small groups or fgs, and come back after wipes, but getting wiped 2-3 times they quit or get a second group to stick em. What happens then? 1fg mid, 1fg hib 1fg alb run around in agra. Mids wipe hibs and mids wipe albs 2-3 times. Albs get second fg, and wipe mids and hibs 2-3 times. After hibs got wiped around 5-6 times without getting any rps, they quit. After highrr-mids get wiped 3-6 times they quit aswell. In the end, mids get most rps, albs get second most rps and hibs get barely rps, most from ganking solos and stealther. After theres only 1 fg left in agra, what do they do? they raid towers or look for solos. Thats how the situation looks now. About 1 month ago, before the summerbreak, it wasnt unusual to see 3-4 mid FGs running around, sticked or not did not matter. There were 3-4 sologanking FGs, that even made 2 circles around agramon, in stick, chasing 1 solo minstrel with endubottles and lw, ONLY TO GET those 100 rps one would get by killing 1 player with 16! In the end, the minstrel shook em off going into stealth^^ |
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It doesn't matter what happens. I have seen groups leave after 1 wipe. Determination pays off. The game is only good on how you make it. If you don't go out in RvR because of one group; that is bunk. Tactics win fights; and it's the same in RvR; a cookie cutter group will wipe any group; as long as they are experienced players/know how to play their classes. Like I stated before; Get some tough skin; and try. You'll have fun. |
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WTF is this.... Guys please stop whining, please stop it.
Are you a noob? 1 - well there is a lot of material to read, about daoc. it wont hurt you... read it. 2 - Ask to some experienced player. E.G: did you choose druid. ok, when you enter do a /who druid and ask to a lvl 50 player about, spec, templates, etc.... 3 - xp!!!!!!!!!!!! yes if you didnt realize yet. Daoc is a grinding game, you have to grind, and why not try some skills in pve, if you are tank dont use only taunt, if you are caster try to kite or use your abilities.... etc. plus you will need money (a lot) for your Sc'ed gear. Going to BGS 1 - when you go to BGS you will die for sure a couple of times.... Im saying this because some ppl thinks they are a kind of special person who cant die/wipe and logout after the first simple mistake. 2 - if you are low rr well you will have to die a lot, but i mean a lot, before kill someone. The only way to learn is by playing patiently. you have to die, you have to grind... boring? yes it is. but believe me it really really worth 
And please guys stop whining this is war. If you want kill greys so kill it. those greys have to learn how to survive. ( i mean by moving to another spot of course). You wanna add to a fight. do it. want to zerg do it. wanna take relics do it. its a game about war.... wanna play it? well the rule is, there is no rules. Mids are ruling the server because they know how to play rvr ( they have skilled players but that is not what i am talking about, if they have to zerg they do, if they have to get his hands dirty they do. thats what im talking about.) Im playing at hib right now. So i want to ask to the hibernian ppl. please stop whining about BD about Savage, about Zerg, etc. Seems like we are not able to do anything else. by whining we get nothing more than mids laughing about us, so guys lets try to find a way to kill mids and do it. When i started on this server Hibernia used to rule lvl 50 rvr (guilds like MB or BA) on these days mids rulez this server. But im pretty sure that we can change it. Regards! An hibernian player! P.S: To say i wont play anymore because the only template/spec/class i like doesnt work properly here is the gayest attitude ever. Wanna play daoc? You can choose from 36 diferent classes(aprox.) You have like 2-3 diferent spec for every single class. so you can choose what to role from 70+ diferent options. So......... P.S2: Wanna Say gratz to zubasa. why? for beeing diferent and choose RM. yes i like the fact that you picked a caster into midgard and i also like the way you play gratz. i hope to kill you soon  Maybe hib needs more druids/elds/Ench..... etc.
P.S3: Sorry about my english is not my primary language Last edited by Astinos on Aug 10, 2009 17:37, edited 2 times in total.
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Zub is RM not SM, but I do agree with you. Being a caster in a tank oriented realm is the hard way to go. <em>When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty.</em>
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TY idk why i always use rm instead of sm and the other way around.! |
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Hard? If you can hide behind savages/zerker it's not exactly difficult to throw NS at 2300 range or nuke overextending tanks. [14:57] <akejoduuu> sad rune added if not i rare upir skall
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There are 5 (five...) RMs above 6L, and only 2 of them are active. But if you say it's easy, it must be true... <em>When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty.</em>
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Its not easy but Zubasa has a Guilgroup. I thinm PUGs prefer Tanks (Savages Zerkers). |
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This thread pretty much explains why I haven't played in like 3 weeks. Besides the obvious lack of players when I play (starting at 8-9pm EST) it's this insistence on 8v8 that bothers me the most. If you're a casual player good luck ever getting RvR action because nobody's gonna want you and your smaller group around.
If this server's mentality ever changes to become what it was in the classic era I might have the desire to play. But this constant "don't add plz" just gets on my nerves too much. So yeah there's a reason a lot of people don't bother with Agra. |
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There are only 5(five) RM above 6L There are only 3(three) GBs above 6L There are only 3(three) Mentas above 6L There are only 7(seven) Elds above 6L There are only 2(two) Enchs above 6L There are only 6(six) Theurgists above 6L There are only 3(three) Cabalist above 6L There are only 5(five) Wizzards above 6L I hardly see any difference... just that hib and alb got 3 casterclasses and that makes the difference ... |
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There are only 15(fifteen) Sorcerers above 6L There are 3 SMs and 2 BDs above RR 6 (GB = SM?) These statistics dont say much about how hard the casters are to play though. I personally do not think midgard caster are any harder nor easier to play than alb/hib casters. |
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