Hmm well some issue occured to me and some others. When twisting endu and speed song on bard with 99%qual instruments end song would just cancel when playing speed whereas it should linger for a few more seconds.

We then noticed that twisting with an MP drum this did not occur, twisting would work and everyone in the group could run at speed 6 without loosing endu. The bard however would still loose 5% endu per song he plays.

I can't back this up with live tests or anything but I'm 100% sure I could switch speed+endu song up without loosing endurance on my bard. Was during pre-NF.

So:

a) Is it normal that you can't twist speed+endu with a 99%qua drum?

b) Is it normal that you loose endurance when twisting?

Maidrion wrote:Hmm well some issue occured to me and some others. When twisting endu and speed song on bard with 99%qual instruments end song would just cancel when playing speed whereas it should linger for a few more seconds.

We then noticed that twisting with an MP drum this did not occur, twisting would work and everyone in the group could run at speed 6 without loosing endu. The bard however would still loose 5% endu per song he plays.

I can't back this up with live tests or anything but I'm 100% sure I could switch speed+endu song up without loosing endurance on my bard. Was during pre-NF.

So:

a) Is it normal that you can't twist speed+endu with a 99%qua drum?

b) Is it normal that you loose endurance when twisting?

I can't answer the question about MP vs. lower quality - two of my bards (I had three) had really nice instruments: phoebus harp and champion harp.

As for the second question, yes, you should be losing a small amount of endurance on every twist. Get long wind 1 and this should go away. If it does not, then you've confirmed that this ability does not work as on live.

I'd like to know if anyone else has encountered this 99 vs MP problem, i'm just about to get my stuff ready to SC so would be handy to know beforehand.
I did speak with 1 bard in game that said there was no difference but would like to hear the opinions of others.

TheRat wrote:As for the second question, yes, you should be losing a small amount of endurance on every twist. Get long wind 1 and this should go away. If it does not, then you've confirmed that this ability does not work as on live.

Well, then it does not. I still go slowly but surely out of endurance when I twist with my bard. (LW1 MP drum)

Intrinsic wrote:I'd like to know if anyone else has encountered this 99 vs MP problem, i'm just about to get my stuff ready to SC so would be handy to know beforehand.
I did speak with 1 bard in game that said there was no difference but would like to hear the opinions of others.

Oh there is a difference, trust me, you'll need a MP drum to be able to twist "properly".

I was Bard on live server and even with blue instru, i could switch properly.

After some tests on Uthgard, i deduce you need a Orange instru to switch properly. Try with a orange 99% instru.


Now about the question of speed 6 without loosing endu cause of switching, i remember i could speed 6 infinitly. But that was long long time ago (pre toa). Maybe recent update change that.

Had to go look for it, but i posted some grabbag questions in this thread which say quality should only affect the amount of imbuepoints.

Level of the instrument should be the only variable affecting pulselength.

About the endu, i don't know, i lose endu when i twist on minstrel aswell.

Well, I can't hold ENdu on my lvl 46 Bard with lvl 51 SC 99% Quali. Speed is no problem, but Endusong has a little rupt. Normal? (I lose normal Endu with Long Wind 1 and Endu/Speed-switch

Well luckily a crafter i know has both 99 and MP available for drum n guitar thing so i guess i'll just try it outmyself, not 50 yet but i guess will give me a good indication. Sounds like i need at least an MP drum though and 99 guitar thing.

Finalement wrote:Well, I can't hold ENdu on my lvl 46 Bard with lvl 51 SC 99% Quali. Speed is no problem, but Endusong has a little rupt. Normal? (I lose normal Endu with Long Wind 1 and Endu/Speed-switch

Got the same problem.
Speed works fine....endurance cancels after 1 tick.

moved to support until a prober bugreport has been created

My 50 shaman I respecced to aug. It still has lw1 from old cave spec and she looses endo while sprinting. (red endo buff)

Ithiggi wrote:My 50 shaman I respecced to aug. It still has lw1 from old cave spec and she looses endo while sprinting. (red endo buff)

wrong topic? :p

Zappo wrote:

Ithiggi wrote:My 50 shaman I respecced to aug. It still has lw1 from old cave spec and she looses endo while sprinting. (red endo buff)

wrong topic? :p

nope