duo bard+x, with x beeing vw or champ, youll own hard....

Funkling wrote:Because they have the best style ingame on top of good debuffs. Oh wait, none of that matters because vws can nuke.

Heros and BMs can slam, too.

Champ debuffs, rr5 and ST actually make them good grp chars.
VWs are nice for grps because of Baod, Ichor and disease proc.
Just like champs they will be dead for grp rvr when OF RAs hit the field.


If you think that Annihilation is a good Style...

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity."

Jarysa wrote:

Funkling wrote:Because they have the best style ingame on top of good debuffs. Oh wait, none of that matters because vws can nuke.

Heros and BMs can slam, too.

Champ debuffs, rr5 and ST actually make them good grp chars.
VWs are nice for grps because of Baod, Ichor and disease proc.
Just like champs they will be dead for grp rvr when OF RAs hit the field.


If you think that Annihilation is a good Style...

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity."

Annihilation IS a good style, in Classic DAoC. Compared to SI styles, it's not really what you'd be picking from the list, indeed.

Zarkor wrote:Annihilation IS a good style, in Classic DAoC. Compared to SI styles, it's not really what you'd be picking from the list, indeed.

No, it isnt.

It´s good but not great damage with a worthless effect as both classes that could get it should have slam, and heros have a better backstyle in CS.

Hammer backstyle would be an example of a good style.
Slam is by far the best style in the game.


Only advantage annihilation has is that you get to spec 50 instead of 40 valour and 50 instead of 49 LW as a champ if you can runthrough annihilate well.

Jarysa wrote:

Zarkor wrote:Annihilation IS a good style, in Classic DAoC. Compared to SI styles, it's not really what you'd be picking from the list, indeed.

No, it isnt.

It´s good but not great damage with a worthless effect as both classes that could get it should have slam, and heros have a better backstyle in CS.

Hammer backstyle would be an example of a good style.
Slam is by far the best style in the game.


Only advantage annihilation has is that you get to spec 50 instead of 40 valour and 50 instead of 49 LW as a champ if you can runthrough annihilate well.

If you're looking to do damage (yes, that's possible with a hero), Annihilation is way better than the CS backstyle.

Shamrock wrote:Cespx... why do you say champs aren't any good in RvR?

Simple. Because Champ is a PvP class.
Champ strenght is created by self Str/Con- you lose this bonus in grp, Debuffs that highly increase they offensive and defensive power in PvP plus shield&st that also make your def better.

If you want to play RvR you can either spec high LW or Valor, no chance for both. This means dmg lose. Since most of grps run with BMs,Heros Champs defensive skills are not that important anymore. Champ is also a class without stoi so it's much easier to be stopped. Plus (if you want to compare champ with VW) VW can still rupt supporters if rooted,snared. Champ can just wait till those effect fade.

To conclude, in RvR champ can play everything and nothing at the same time because he can be easly replaced with any better dmg dealing class or any defensive tank.

Zarkor wrote:If you're looking to do damage (yes, that's possible with a hero), Annihilation is way better than the CS backstyle.

If the target is stunned CS side chain has the same GR.
If its not stunned its better to snare it then to do like what 20? damage more.

CS has the damage advantage on pretty much all non casters that get grouped ever by armor resist tables.

LW will do more damage on palas, armsmen (worst targets ever), friars (ok they dont get groups), zerkers and savages (somewhat usefull).

Jarysa wrote:If you think that Annihilation is a good Style...

I don't think it is, I know it is.