OMG BLOCK RATE TOO HIGH

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Postby Satz » Aug 01, 2009 22:54

A very very interesting thing ive seen so far, right after second reboot....

Block seems to have disappeared completely, and i cant think of a reason...

Ive killed around 50 mobs on a lvl 18 toon, with 16+4 shieldspec, and had not a single block.

After having killed around 30 yellow/orange ones, ive went on with green/greys just to make sure, that its not only the uthgards random algoritm playing games with me. Wenn, as stated above, not a single block agains around 20 green/grey mobs beeing pulled 1 after the other, not all together.

I have tested positional and anytime shieldstyles and they seemed to be working.

Also tested engage on a different char, lvl 50 in a duel.... It did not block a single time aswell, but endu was still removed.
Also tested on an other char with moblock 4! Not a single block aswell, not in engage mode, not in free fight mode.

Even though all this, guard seems to work for now.

[01.08.2009]
- Bugfix: Blockformula updated :)
- Bugfix: Blockchance for rvr guards fixed
- Bugfix: Blocking is no longer able(i would write possible instead of able) while mesmerized/stunned

edit:
[01.08.2009]
- Bugfix: Blockformula updated :)
- Bugfix: Blockchance for rvr guards fixed
- Bugfix: Blocking is no longer possible

flame:
Seems like someone said: well guys, today youve blocked enough for the next 1-2 years so lets make block even more worthless than it was before by removing it completely.

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Postby Nymeros » Aug 02, 2009 01:06

8O

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Postby hopscotsch » Aug 02, 2009 10:54

Constructive criticism for the staff: Maybe do some internal block testing before making the official patch?

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Postby hun_cactus » Aug 02, 2009 11:13

hopscotsch wrote:Constructive criticism for the staff: Maybe do some internal block testing before making the official patch?


Constructive answer: They did?
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Postby Funkling » Aug 02, 2009 11:36

I kinda doubt that.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

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Postby Camulos » Aug 02, 2009 11:53

I did not expect anything more from you, Funkling. :roll:

Block formula has been in testing for a long time, it's not a quickshot. The bugs we encountered yesterday are fixed.

Instead of bashing the staff in every situation possible, just think about what some people here invest in time for the server. You all only see the final product, not the work behind it.

I know, talking to people like you, Funkling, about such things is senseless, but maybe some others may rethink there whining and agressive postings about the problems we've had yesterday.

Always remember: People use there freetime and money to offer YOU something to have fun with.

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Postby Cratemesy » Aug 02, 2009 13:15

close pls :)

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Postby Funkling » Aug 02, 2009 13:33

Camulos wrote:I did not expect anything more from you, Funkling. :roll:


Np, the feeling is mutual.

I'm not bashing the staff, I never did. I appreciate the GOOD work you do, however that doesn't mean that you mess up sometimes. Accept the fact that you're human.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

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Postby Nayru » Aug 02, 2009 13:51

wheelchairbuff wrote:Rofl I just tested this, a hero with 50+16 shield blocks less than a BM with 42+17. Good coding there guys. Did a couple hundred hits where both were fully buffed. No MoB/Aug Dex on either side.


As I know the formula I can promise you that this is impossible, if the blademaster does not have way higher dexterity.

Musikus wrote:.) chars with lesser dex block as good as me (leads me to the thinking that dex is not included in formula, but i might be wrong)
.) chars with lesser/no MoBlock than me block as good as i do..(i got MoB3)
.) healing classes now block 3 or 4 shots from 10 (seems ok to me)
.) critshots are blockable again
.) stunned targets are able to block (thats not ok)
.) mezzed targets are able to block (also a misstake since a sleeping target cant defend himself)

maybe the staff share the formula with us (which i doubt)


- Dex is of course included
- Healing classes are fullbuffed always. As soon as there are more attackers their blockrate vastly decreases since they can only use small shields (except for the cleric who can block a little bit more)
- I've tested it myself before committing the code and not one of the 20 critshots i've done was blocked, not even while engage was active. Could you please show me a screenshot of a blocked critshot?
- Stunned/mesmerized targets were able to block due to a bug for a couple of hours, but that has been fixed (as can be read in the changelog)

Of course we will never share this formula. We have worked on it for 8 months and do not want any trash instant 50 servers to profit from this.

hopscotsch wrote:Constructive criticism for the staff: Maybe do some internal block testing before making the official patch?


We did, but you can never get all possible situations tested. I think it was Metty who once said "if you fix a bug, you create twenty new ones".

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Postby hun_cactus » Aug 02, 2009 13:52

Funkling wrote:
Camulos wrote:I did not expect anything more from you, Funkling. :roll:


Np, the feeling is mutual.

I'm not bashing the staff, I never did. I appreciate the GOOD work you do, however that doesn't mean that you mess up sometimes. Accept the fact that you're human.


Could you give us a proof about your performance pls? I watch your posts on the forum, since i came back to Uth, and usually u speak with players/staff members like you are at least a God+. (I only see so far 1 great and storng ability what you has:: Trolling)

(I know you said you won' tell your characters here, cause they are low RRs, that's okey, RR doesn't equal skill, but ....)

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Postby Funkling » Aug 02, 2009 13:59

That's great honey.
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Postby Nayru » Aug 02, 2009 14:30

Funkling and wheelchairbuff you should really think of what you are posting here. Stop trolling, last warning.

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