Bard
Druid
Druid
Blademaster/Warden
Blademaster
Blademaster
Blademaster
Blademaster

Lasastard wrote: You can get away with a sub-optimal setups and average skill because there is little competition and pressure to begin with.

I'd love to see u go take on the top tier alb or mid grps with a sub-optimal setup with average players. I don't necessarily mean u but it's an attitude that I find pretty ridiculous. I mean ppl coming here from live server saying they're gonna rock the place cause uth skill level is so ****** while most of the time they're actually the first to leave when they get wiped. Yes the majority is pretty mediocre but there's some grps in RvR who have a decent clue of what they're doing.

mfassben wrote:If you got a set group i would suggest:

Druid
Druid
Bard
Light Menta
Light Menta
Mana Ench
Light Eld
BM/Hero

Definitely best setup.

Tbh if you wanna make a real caster setup ( dont see why with the current RA abil and no +casting speed ) i would go :

Bard
Druid
Druid
Light menta
Light Chanter
Mana Chanter
Mana Eld / Light Eld - You got NS and Disease with both specs so ^^
Hero/Champ/BM - Slam bot all classes can work if played well.

Light.. chanter?

Mmmmh Ok combat speed debuff is somewhat tasty, but then I'd rather take a menta or eld in it's place really.

Sali wrote:Tbh if you wanna make a real caster setup ( dont see why with the current RA abil and no +casting speed ) i would go :

Bard
Druid
Druid
Light menta
Light Chanter
Mana Chanter
Mana Eld / Light Eld - You got NS and Disease with both specs so ^^
Hero/Champ/BM - Slam bot all classes can work if played well.

Light Ench with speed debuff can be nice but ... I would prefer Light/Mentalism Menta for demezz/mezz and heal (sometimes)- mid tanks will pwn you in a few secs no matter if they are swing-speed-debuffed or not:)

I'd rather take Light Eld instead of Mana. Best NS owns on Uth where mof2 (if working correctly) should make the job for low lvl disease. Plus bomb is kinda useless on Uthgard...

Tank. If you have choice. Take Hero. Easy to switch shield/2h, grp ras, almost unstoppable with det5. BM is quite nice with charge and det4 but you will spend ages on searching for good switching BM (my opinion^^).
And my opinion to Champs in RvR... No stoi so without ward's resists even with det5 it can be permanently stunned,rooted,mezzed... No back snare styles- no use in casters grp when all tanks have stun immune. Insta snare as only slowing effect= root immunity for Uthgard's tanks (most of them are det4/5). So forget the Champ^^

That would be all.
If you menage to create such a grp you will be my personal hero.

Cespx

Depending on the situation a champion can be a much better peeler than a hero. They can cripple charge tanks with debuffs whereas hero/bm can't. S/c debuff+insta dd+annihilation helps take down targets a lot faster too. And you don't have to worry about getting mezzed in a hib caster group.

OF champ + red root = fail

But old RAs should still be a few decades away.

I think this would be the best.

It's all about the 4 casters really.

I'd take bard - druid - druid - hero as fundaments.


Then you can go:

Light Eld
Light Ment
Light Ment
Mana Chanter

or:

Light Eld
Light Eld
Light Ment
Mana Chanter

or:

Light Eld
Mana Eld
Light Ment
Mana Chanter

or:

... all sorts of combos as long as you have at least one light end and one mana chanter.


With Old RAs you can even go for:

Mana Chanter/Eld
Mana Chanter/Eld
Mana Chanter/Eld
Light Eld

Which would be my personal favorite. ^^

No 2nd demezzer with OF ?

Funkling wrote:No 2nd demezzer with OF ?

Hehe, well if run with a

- Bard
- Druid
- Druid
- Hero
- Light Ment
- Light Ment
- Light Eld
- Mana Chanter

you have the Bard, 2 extra demezzers, 2x group purge and extra purges on each demezzer, but I just rather feel the full force of a PBAOE group, instead of the usual debuff-kiting. ^^
It's a very rare sight on Uthgard aswell, I only recall Griselda using it frequently and effectively.

Well even for a bomb group I would take a light menta for the 2nd demezz. The AOE DD can still help even if it's much less powerful than a bomb, but you still have 3 slots for mana ench and elds :p

Hedra wrote:Well even for a bomb group I would take a light menta for the 2nd demezz. The AOE DD can still help even if it's much less powerful than a bomb, but you still have 3 slots for mana ench and elds :p

True, true. ^^

Griselda was able to bomb overextenders who got slammed. It was in a tank group who could push. To push with a hib caster group is suicide since hib is the only realm without castable amnesia. One dedicated healer or sorc ****** a melee caster AT completely