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Postby hun_cactus » Jul 30, 2009 13:04

vangonaj wrote:The problem isn´t skill, rr, ra , frontiers... is only your menatality.



http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=12086&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Check Satz comment. Yeah, only mentality... and maybe some lucky class ^^

Anyway the albs relic-def playstyle(style?)/morale was gave the oppurtunity to me to play other games/do much IRL things. That wasn't cause unbalance.
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Postby Zarkor » Jul 30, 2009 13:13

jrhadden wrote:I havnt played OF Emain either, but looking at the map:


I have played OF.

Just not NF Emain alone, old Uthgard-style.

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Postby vangonaj » Jul 30, 2009 13:26

Im sure if one day we have here one rp reboot, after 3 or 4 weeks we will have same people here crying about high rr players.
Cactus don´t be angry with with me, but you have 3 chars in lev 50 and how many rps did you last week? If you see LWRPs you will see lot of players in rr4 and 5, who did 100k rps and more last week.

The mentality is the problem no your rr.

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Postby jrhadden » Jul 30, 2009 13:46

vangonaj wrote:Im sure if one day we have here one rp reboot, after 3 or 4 weeks we will have same people here crying about high rr players.
Cactus don´t be angry with with me, but you have 3 chars in lev 50 and how many rps did you last week? If you see LWRPs you will see lot of players in rr4 and 5, who did 100k rps and more last week.

The mentality is the problem no your rr.


Its not even RR mids. I am soloing alot lately. But its getting impossible.
Neither you run into a bunch of stealther ( y a bunch , not solo) or you meet Mr.IRunOnlyInAGroupOf8DespiteTheNumbersOfEnemies and his friends.
Of course when u have alot time and dont need to work in the morning, nor to sleep in the night - you can have some RPs without having a FG.^^
But for a casual gamer login in ~17:00 ++, thats another situation.

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Postby vangonaj » Jul 30, 2009 14:00

Nes i saw how you did rps in the morning, night and 17:00 o´clock. Is possible do rps all day with and without group vs stealthers, fgs and little groups or killing expers.

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Postby jrhadden » Jul 30, 2009 14:17

vangonaj wrote:Nes i saw how you did rps in the morning, night and 17:00 o´clock. Is possible do rps all day with and without group vs stealthers, fgs and little groups or killing expers.


You ll have to understand:

If there is 1 FG mids roaming, while HIBs/Albs dont have FG:

- its possible to play a stealther
- its possible to solo as MID
- its not possible/pain to play a Soloer on Hib/Alb.

in Addtion:
- when u are solo. You can atleast fight some stealther. Cause they will try to kill u.
- when u are anything larger than solo and smaller than fg. Stealther wont attack you. And anything said before just holds.

And lahia playing a stealther is a different story, unless there is FG with a MoS5 char.. That would be a appropriate comparison. You sure remember how fast stealther logout when certain hunters do things like this.
Welcome to the world of soloing without stealth:>

And recently there are alot FGs beeing pretty bored. While u seldom or not at all meet anything smaller than FG. Guess why.. The snake eats his tail.


See the difference^^?

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Postby Zarkor » Jul 30, 2009 18:26

The trick is: kill the mid FG once and they ragequit, which gives the rest of Uthgard time to zerg their wood and get the keeps back.

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Postby oLd-Sneakers » Jul 31, 2009 20:27

worst idea ever. You wanna saturate the population even more?

Even in thid its empty 80% of the time

Again worst idea ever :)..

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Postby oLd-Sneakers » Jul 31, 2009 20:39

jrhadden wrote:I havnt played OF Emain either, but looking at the map:

There is the central part. which can be accessed by 3 directions.
Every Realm another destrict for itself. In Order to RvR prolly you have to go over the central part. Looks pretty much like Agramon when u remove the camps. Except for that it ain't plain.

Where do you see the huge difference? I just see a stone replaced by tree. The pathing looks familiar.


The advantage of NF Emain was, while people who wanted to do GvG could do it btw Crim,Crauch and ofc TKs.
While the South part of it was less trafficed, and used for soloer/small groups. There was no reason to meet any FGs there except that FG's were bored. You could reach any position on the map either by going North or South. Making meeting FG's avoidable.

Water offered also plenty possibilities to play with it.

RvR was plain more richer ...

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OF emain in a a nutshell is random / casual ungrped people building up a "zerg" at the milegate, 8 mans roam the routes from the milegates, occasionally attacking the milegate to 1) try and break off some zerg ppl from the milegate 2) die to the zerg

Solos can often leave the milegate area and walk offroads both from mmg and amg towards either Aliline or DC to meet other solos. Respected 8 mans don't gank visual people walking these routes since it it was pritty much considered lame.

Also in OF you had the small men grps in Odins gate and solos, and on primetime alot of soloing and small men was made in Hadrians wall near Hpk since at prime set grps used to go odins for stric 8v8 since the zerg was too big in emain for them.

Now Uthgard has a smaller population yes, so it will be diffrent for sure.

Time will tell how successfull OF will be on this server.

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Postby panachier » Aug 01, 2009 03:04

few days ago it was even impossible to hunt stealther with scout+ minstrel+ cleric cause there were always a mid group around alb tk.

thhere were 3 mid fg ganking albs solos or small group. we tryed to reach alb amg with minstrel speed for 30 mins and we were not able. ^^

yeah sure it's easier to play on mid but to have fun you need enemies
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Postby Ronian » Aug 01, 2009 03:07

jrhadden wrote:See the difference^^?

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I have no problem with duos, but mostly some old duos run now trio (with mainhealer) or most mids run duo shami or healer+caster/tank, which is hard to kill solo.

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Postby jrhadden » Aug 01, 2009 03:22

Ronian wrote:
jrhadden wrote:See the difference^^?

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I have no problem with duos, but mostly some old duos run now trio (with mainhealer) or most mids run duo shami or healer+caster/tank, which is hard to kill solo.


Although u might be ungrouped. As soon as 1 stelather pops. There are more to pop from your own realm or different. Stealther come in packs xD - no offense intended. I am sure you can solo alot. But that wasnt the point. Try to solo when there is FG with MoS5 char roaming/looking for you :>. Now imagine some people soloing without stealth/vanish/sos and the problems they face, when their own realm has no FG running outside while enemy realms have.
That was my point. I dont like stealther talking about soloing^^.
Even RR10 SBs like to vanish ...

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Postby Archonis » Aug 03, 2009 00:33

actually,
agramon is alomst empty many hours per day.
a new bg for till 6l2 players would empty agramon even more .
its no good idea.

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Postby zubasa » Aug 03, 2009 01:12

remove all battlegrounds, except thidranki (to level24, 1l5) - that will get those lazy pve-nuts to join the fun in rvr :P

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Postby erwondal » Aug 03, 2009 02:08

to feed the 24/7 playing zubasa :>

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