elTakapiru wrote:Well if u merge two groups the high group might once go check that if they still stick together and if they do its pretty much sure log out, and hf then

Other case the lower RR grps go and roll a twink, then the high ones cry for "omg already only a few ppl in agra", "stop cry and feed us in agra" etc... And hf then^^

You are really don't see the point, or just don't want to see it?

Nvm, i know your answer already...

Low RR grps have 2 options

- log out and try later = no rps and no fun
- merge with another grp = some rps and fun

the High RR grps have 2 options too, if the low RR grps merge

- log out and try later = no rps and no fun
- merge with another random grp = some rps and fun

if no one give up and log out if they have to be more ppl, to defeat the inc, i think we would have more rvr than ever.

There are many coices to show the enemys that u r around. Attack a Tower or Keep and u will see the inc will come. But no one wants to hit wood because they get no rps. on the first look its right but on the 2nd if u kill the defenders u get rps. Sometimes i hear no enemys around but while lvling i saw various grp running aroung in Agra but they didnt met eachother. At my livetime there passt never a day w/o any siegefight. But on Uth siegefights are so rare that i cant remember the last one.

Perhaps the Community should overthink their approaching about RvR

Skill > RR.
L2play.

That is all.

u cant win with a rand RR4 fresh from Thid most unsced w/o TS grp against those High RR full SC TS grps. Only thing u can do is to increase ppl.

Or not?

LG Jack

Funkling, but what should Agramon-greenhorns do if the enemy group has RR AND Skill?

-> Only chance for them to compete is to try it with more than 8 ppl. But that has been frowned upon day0 of this server I think.

more siege fights = more fun action for low RR people


in my experiences.. maybe low RR people should try to siege more?

and when sieging its all okay to bring 2-5FG to the scene imo :p

I would be happy if the thing would change like that. But i'm sure it will never be happen our Guild Try to get some ppls for that to start a new future of siegefights and anti 8vs8. But ist nearly impossible to find anyone to start with.

LG Jack

JackPriest wrote:u cant win with a rand RR4 fresh from Thid most unsced w/o TS grp against those High RR full SC TS grps. Only thing u can do is to increase ppl.

Or not?

LG Jack

Well one group did it, and they were RR3. Theres a vid on forums.

wheelchairbuff wrote:

JackPriest wrote:u cant win with a rand RR4 fresh from Thid most unsced w/o TS grp against those High RR full SC TS grps. Only thing u can do is to increase ppl.

Or not?

LG Jack

Well one group did it, and they were RR3. Theres a vid on forums.

But but but.. they were Mids!

That's not fair either, right?

JackPriest wrote:u cant win with a rand RR4 fresh from Thid most unsced w/o TS grp against those High RR full SC TS grps. Only thing u can do is to increase ppl.

Or not?

LG Jack

Most of people got template since braemar (expecially in braemar)

But I can tell you that, actually, a group of rr3-4 people can defeat in 8 vs 8 a rr6-8 group.

Also, a group of rr5-6 can kill a rr8-11 group.


I saw the inc so you can trust me. Anyway this doesn't mean that a rr3-4 group can't kill a 10l group

hun_cactus wrote:

Haldan wrote:So, if you get busted by a highRR group, possible reactions would be:
- if you are solo => get a group.
- if you were in a group => get another group.
- if you were two groups => get another group or simply form a zerg.

You said good - i agree with it -, unfortunaetly as i said most part of the albs doesn't think like this :<

Yeah too many people don't like the idea of a fight that's less than fair. I happen to not care if a realm zergs or not...if they do then good for them they have the numbers to succeed; if they don't then good for them anyway.

In my opinion it's all about your realm winning, not about 8v8 with no adds. Maybe I just can't get over my old live server's mindset, where 100s vs 100s was not too uncommon, but 8v8 was.

Rector wrote:Funkling, but what should Agramon-greenhorns do if the enemy group has RR AND Skill?

Whine on the forums !

Log off, add, get help.

Demurgio i know some ppl who are lv 49 yet and still have no sc because of money, and they play most of time only their main char. and if u win with a RANDOM RR4 grp against RR10 they were afk or all instas RAs down. there is no other reason ^^

LG Jack

Zarkor wrote:No point in this.


We only need a lower level BG, nothing else.

A million times THIS.

i agree with nixian here... i really hope OF will have a better keep/siege system than the actual rvr zone... i expect like Dun Crauchon being the only keep to siege and give a 5% bonus and DF to the owner of DC...this would, in my point of view, lead to many nic zerg defends and attacks for everyone... and the 8v8 groups could still go on with their fights without fear to lose port or sth (i hope to lose port will not be a possibility in OF)