How to fight as a charge tank vs a caster

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Postby Glacius » Jul 25, 2009 09:43

I had an earlier post about another topic, and i ve seen that here ppl tend to start talking about something else, there were a few that disagreed with me, when i said that you should use charge from the begining when atacking a caster..or at least after u get hit once ..or twice. Well i want you to come with opinions and with imaginative fights about that class and that class and how one should perform and how another.
I do want to mention, that on the oficial servers where i have played for many years, after ToA apeared casters were extremely powerful , and when i say powerful i talk about 500 dmg on a 26% resist without crit done by rr5 players, cause toa brought gifts like = 10% spell dmg,10% increased range,-10% spell pierce, 10% cast speed(used to be 20% but has been lowered after 2 months),and +25 to acuity and dext wich maked them hit faster and stronger. I play here on uth for a few months only, and i have recently maked rr5 , it seems that casters here dont have such a dmg potential , its almost not dark age of camelot..but dark age of tankalot like id used to be when the game had his release 7..or 8 years ago , so as a theme i will give you a fight, berseker VS Theurg wind/cold spec who has higher chances of wining..and why.

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Postby Cespx » Jul 25, 2009 11:27

Answer is simple.
Charge Zerk will own you in a few secs.

My only chance (as menta) was to use rr5 so it wont really help you.
But before reaching rr5 i tried to use whatever i can.

If you want to win use best dd+best dd charge+ as many healing things as you can+ everything else and pray to survive till the end of charge:D It will happen once per 10 fights but well... This is Uthgard.

Good luck:D

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Postby panachier » Jul 25, 2009 11:49

that really depend the caster.

first i suppose the caster that were dangerous enough to kill you on the way to reach them were not sorc...

there are some casters that can resist well versus charge tank.
first the one with speed if the tank charge at begining, just sprint back, when he ll reach you charge will be off ( no tank use DD charge on uthgard)
-sorc and eldricht have nice RR5 to survive in adition to the speed.
-with the nice RA BD can over drain the damages and at least kill the tank faster than he does.
- SM can count on luck with intercept chances
- theu can count on auto BD and moc BT maybe.
-menta can count on HoT and healing pet
-eldricht can use RR5
-maybe enchanter can count on pseed, healing pet and moc bt...


i agree that wizard have very nothing to do... maybe RR5 and 2 bombs could kill the tank
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Postby Pookies » Jul 25, 2009 12:28

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Postby Glacius » Jul 25, 2009 12:35

Cespx wrote:Answer is simple.
Charge Zerk will own you in a few secs.

My only chance (as menta) was to use rr5 so it wont really help you.
But before reaching rr5 i tried to use whatever i can.

If you want to win use best dd+best dd charge+ as many healing things as you can+ everything else and pray to survive till the end of charge:D It will happen once per 10 fights but well... This is Uthgard.

Good luck:D


True , vs theurg u gota charge from the begining otherwise if he starts with ice pets and they snare you, u r dead, other pets r easy , u can charge after they r on you even if wind ones stun you.

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Postby Glacius » Jul 25, 2009 12:44

panachier wrote:that really depend the caster.

first i suppose the caster that were dangerous enough to kill you on the way to reach them were not sorc...

there are some casters that can resist well versus charge tank.
first the one with speed if the tank charge at begining, just sprint back, when he ll reach you charge will be off ( no tank use DD charge on uthgard)
-sorc and eldricht have nice RR5 to survive in adition to the speed.
-with the nice RA BD can over drain the damages and at least kill the tank faster than he does.
- SM can count on luck with intercept chances
- theu can count on auto BD and moc BT maybe.
-menta can count on HoT and healing pet
-eldricht can use RR5
-maybe enchanter can count on pseed, healing pet and moc bt...


i agree that wizard have very nothing to do... maybe RR5 and 2 bombs could kill the tank


I liked your response , and i have a few things to add , vs casters with speed u dont charge until they hit you, cause they will loose spd for a bit of time , enough for you to charge on speed3 and sprint, u ll be on his ass and from there , well 4 hits should be enough to put down even a pd 3 caster.
True , eldtrich rr5 is ****** and can help him escape of a charging tank, but if the eld is pbaoe spec he has only stun as CC, and he ll die if the tank keeps folowing.
Sorc rr5 is tricky also, but depends on tank..if he has det5, he can put up a good fight even if the sorc has 2 ways of CC.
Mentalist i have fought a few days and aye his rr5 can put some problems, but then again after rr5 gone, if he s not light to be able to CC u abit, he s as good as dead, even tho he hots, a 9 sec stun on a determ 4 tank is 2 ..3 seconds or so .
And in adition to what i ve said .. yes, in toa casters used to kill you in 4 hits, cause that the amount of DD s a caster can make from 1500 range on a sprinting tank(no charge) . Lifetap casters hited me for 400+ dmg,and nolifetap ones like wizzie,runem,light eld chanter or menta about 500+.

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Postby Funkling » Jul 25, 2009 17:24

Pookies wrote:/sit

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Postby kryptonite » Aug 03, 2009 15:21

Glacius wrote: True , eldtrich rr5 is ****** and can help him escape of a charging tank, but if the eld is pbaoe spec he has only stun as CC, and he ll die if the tank keeps folowing.


pbae eld got a singele snare dd and desease as well. so its very easy to kill a tank after charge.

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Postby jrhadden » Aug 03, 2009 15:47

I think nobody wants to give serious hints, and especially not me, since i have to face em :s

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Postby Gemma » Aug 03, 2009 19:32

panachier wrote:there are some casters that can resist well versus charge tank.
first the one with speed if the tank charge at begining, just sprint back, when he ll reach you charge will be off ( no tank use DD charge on uthgard)



HAHAAAHAAA! No tank use dd charge on uthgard!!! :lol:

:evil: I DO!!!! :twisted:

(maybe too often atm, but ill get the hang of it sooner or later :) )

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Postby jrhadden » Aug 03, 2009 20:43

Gemma wrote:
panachier wrote:there are some casters that can resist well versus charge tank.
first the one with speed if the tank charge at begining, just sprint back, when he ll reach you charge will be off ( no tank use DD charge on uthgard)



HAHAAAHAAA! No tank use dd charge on uthgard!!! :lol:

:evil: I DO!!!! :twisted:

(maybe too often atm, but ill get the hang of it sooner or later :) )


Your bersi is 36... At this level most enemy caster dont have the proper speed to gain an advantage at all...

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Postby panachier » Aug 03, 2009 23:03

your bersi is 36... he shouldn't have charge if i remember well. it should be level 40 restricted but not sure, i'll check that.
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Postby panachier » Aug 03, 2009 23:06

search done .
http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder2.cfm?Blademaster

on the left you see that you get charge ability at level 40... isn't the case on uthgard?
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Postby mfassben » Aug 03, 2009 23:32

What you searched was the old charge,which only gave you higher speed but no CC Resi.It was before NF RAs were implemented.Now theres only the RA which has no restriction.
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Postby Gemma » Aug 04, 2009 00:10

to clear that up: i dont have charge with my zerk, but it is the next ra ill get. i just wanted to point out that i actually use dd-charges, and guess what, ill keep using them even when i finally get charge^^.

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