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Postby Funkling » Jul 23, 2009 00:43

Murax wrote:Expressing how dumb this answer was in words just doesnt work


Comprehension fail :(
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Postby Dark_MarDarkMark » Jul 23, 2009 10:22

Midgard is OP because of the server style here. Midgard is the only realm how dont need caster in their setup and they have the strongest SI class here + new frontiers RAs. If we would have ToA Bonus here, nobody would cry about mighty Savage dmg.

Just wait for OF RAs.

Ontopic:

Zubasa you have to much time...

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Postby Ranius » Jul 23, 2009 13:38

Dark_MarDarkMark wrote:Just wait for OF RAs.


Just wait till all mids are rr11+

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Postby Demiurgo » Jul 23, 2009 15:09

Dark_MarDarkMark wrote:Midgard is OP because of the server style here. Midgard is the only realm how dont need caster in their setup and they have the strongest SI class here + new frontiers RAs. If we would have ToA Bonus here, nobody would cry about mighty Savage dmg.

Just wait for OF RAs.

Ontopic:

Zubasa you have to much time...


Mid setup don't need casters, but hib setups too^. And if you check zubasa class, it's a caster :D
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Postby Ranius » Jul 23, 2009 15:19

Demiurgo wrote:
Dark_MarDarkMark wrote:Midgard is OP because of the server style here. Midgard is the only realm how dont need caster in their setup and they have the strongest SI class here + new frontiers RAs. If we would have ToA Bonus here, nobody would cry about mighty Savage dmg.

Just wait for OF RAs.

Ontopic:

Zubasa you have to much time...


Mid setup don't need casters, but hib setups too^. And if you check zubasa class, it's a caster :D


Actually, hibs need a caster, eld, for disease at least. But can't compare to shaman who can disease whole fight cause he has nothing better to do. (ok few roots and buff shears) And if you play a supporter you see that disease + at is just damn ****** hard to heal.

Still even if zubasa is caster I haven't seen his grp without a svg. And healer ofc :D

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Postby wheelchairbuff » Jul 23, 2009 15:25

nvm i dont wanna get banned

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Postby Hedra » Jul 23, 2009 15:40

Demiurgo wrote:Mid setup don't need casters, but hib setups too^. And if you check zubasa class, it's a caster :D

Yeah hibs dont need casters, just that a mid tank group will have 2x more dmg because of savages and cele, not to mention their fulltanks setup usually have 3 healers so more cc/heals/demezz as well + shaman spam disease ^^
I am assuming direct control.

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Postby Liss » Jul 23, 2009 15:56

Amadeth wrote:i had some respect towards you until this topic. enjoy your leet 8-man and no life. I just love it when Liss /slaps me after I get solo rolled by your group. pathetic.

Zubasa wrote:- we leave solo's that don't add alone (emote us if you want to be left alone)


:lol:

I am sorry about that, but I will continue to roll you solo.

Even though I normally try to not kill solo and duos, sometimes even trios when I am leading, it still does happen.

The reasons for it happening is normaly that the dps in the group is rp-horny and chaise off after everything they can see, sometimes they do it for Group Missions, but honestly I have stoped asking why.


Then there is the exception to the rule:

Minstrels with ellyll sage pets (hi Amadeth)
Ronia (generally any adding archers that I remember the name of)
Cleric/druid who is known to group with stealthers, and hide in the milegate-tower, to heal the stealthers below

and of course, if you engage, I will not just stand idle.

Ranius wrote:Actually, hibs need a caster, eld, for disease at least. But can't compare to shaman who can disease whole fight cause he has nothing better to do. (ok few roots and buff shears) And if you play a supporter you see that disease + at is just damn ****** hard to heal.

Still even if zubasa is caster I haven't seen his grp without a svg. And healer ofc :D

I really hate when hibs have a Valewalker in their train, the disease-proc is annoying.

It is kinda silly really. I bet there are like five times as many RvR ready Savages, as there are Berserkers.

Dark_MarDarkMark wrote:Midgard is OP because of the server style here. Midgard is the only realm how dont need caster in their setup and they have the strongest SI class here + new frontiers RAs. If we would have ToA Bonus here, nobody would cry about mighty Savage dmg.

Just wait for OF RAs.

That is just not true.

Without a caster, if a group from Midgard meet an Albion group with any okay theurgist, they might aswell just sit down and /release.

I am probably one of the few mids who simply can not wait for the OF RA's.
They will clear up a lot of stupid stuff on this server.

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Postby Ronian » Jul 23, 2009 16:18

Liss wrote: bla bla


Rofl, some Mids have a brain size as trolls... For sure I am going to crush every grp fight possible. You did that too to any 1on1 I had before i decided to add your grps.

Especially watching fight vs a hunter and then decided to heal him and make some dots to kill me slowly...

But nice that you want to give me the title of the nasty adder :roll:

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Postby Dark_MarDarkMark » Jul 23, 2009 16:20

Midgard has a shaman and I think one ae dot is enough to kill earth pets + midgard has the strongest tanks. If 2 Savage and 1 Bersi atacks just one target, nobody can heal it. But ofc a midgard grp with a GOOD runemaster (like Zubasa) is stronger then a mid grp without caster.

I dont think that OF RAs are the best in DAoC, ofc they also are unbalanced, but I like it more then a custom 1.80 classic server with NF RAs without ToA. This is just a (in my opinion) stupid server style.

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Postby Funkling » Jul 23, 2009 16:26

Liss wrote:I really hate when hibs have a Valewalker in their train, the disease-proc is annoying.

A single low chance disease proc on a class that's vulnerable to CC gives you a hard time ? Comparing that to say... a shaman who does nothing but spam disease. You don't know what annoyance is.
Liss wrote:Without a caster, if a group from Midgard meet an Albion group with any okay theurgist, they might aswell just sit down and /release.

That's a relatively huge if.
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Postby kikoo » Jul 23, 2009 16:51

Dark_MarDarkMark wrote:Midgard has a shaman and I think one ae dot is enough to kill earth pets

o_O
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Postby Funkling » Jul 23, 2009 16:57

Gogo green aedot :)
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Postby Liss » Jul 23, 2009 17:08

Ronian wrote:
Liss wrote: bla bla


Rofl, some Mids have a brain size as trolls... For sure I am going to crush every grp fight possible. You did that too to any 1on1 I had before i decided to add your grps.

Especially watching fight vs a hunter and then decided to heal him and make some dots to kill me slowly...

But nice that you want to give me the title of the nasty adder :roll:

It is true that I have sometimes stoped to watch 1 vs 1 fights, but I have never doted (hard as a healer), healed or in any other means done something to interfere with the fight.
I rather let the mid die, and rez him afterwards then to ruin a good 1vs1.

Then again, you blaming me for starting something without doing anything is kinda moronic.
Says more about you then me.


If you stop adding on groups I am in, I will stop trying to kill you.

Hey, I have even caught you add on me when I am solo, or duo with a shaman...
(yes, 1vs1 and 2vs2 fights)


Dark_MarDarkMark wrote:Midgard has a shaman and I think one ae dot is enough to kill earth pets + midgard has the strongest tanks. If 2 Savage and 1 Bersi atacks just one target, nobody can heal it. But ofc a midgard grp with a GOOD runemaster (like Zubasa) is stronger then a mid grp without caster.

I dont think that OF RAs are the best in DAoC, ofc they also are unbalanced, but I like it more then a custom 1.80 classic server with NF RAs without ToA. This is just a (in my opinion) stupid server style.


I have tried that, but since shamans only have second ae dot, if they even have one, they are incapable to take blue pets down.
Green once is possible though, but sometimes even they need 2 ae dots.

NF RAs without ToA is a silly idea, since those RAs was made that way because of ToA-bonuses. Same as OF RAs was bad with ToA-bonuses.

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Liss wrote:I really hate when hibs have a Valewalker in their train, the disease-proc is annoying.

A single low chance disease proc on a class that's vulnerable to CC gives you a hard time ? Comparing that to say... a shaman who does nothing but spam disease. You don't know what annoyance is.

An Eldritch, Shaman or Cabalist you can control, the proc you can not (you can cc the Valewalker, but there is still a long window where he is immune).
That is the only reason it does annoy me.

Not to forget that the proc always hits when the person need healing the most, that is not always the case with normal disease-spam (atleast not from Cabalists and Eldritchs).

I am in no way trying to compare a Valewalker to a Shaman when it comes to disease-spam, it would just not be fair, since a shaman is so much more effective at that task.
It was simply an example to confirm the effectiveness of disease.

Funkling wrote:
Liss wrote:Without a caster, if a group from Midgard meet an Albion group with any okay theurgist, they might aswell just sit down and /release.

That's a relatively huge if.

Not really, when you compare to the if's you are trying to point to here.

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Postby kikoo » Jul 23, 2009 17:19

Funkling wrote:Gogo green aedot :)

Yeah, exactly. :)

Sorry Dark, but sham's aedot can hardly illustrate the Mid-Org-Oped-Theory for that matter.
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