jrhadden wrote:5 Post = 99% of the server

Greetz
Nes

Well I think 99% of the server agrees... The other 1% is the staff ^^

Well my bad if you're against a curable NS, I just forgot that some people like easymode. Cause you play a caster with NS right ?

Haldan wrote:

Facts:

Cure NS was introduced in patch 1.66 as a ML ability. ( = ToA content )
Uthgard is a "classic" server. ( = Classic means no ToA+ features )
Cure NS was added to the healing lines of cleric/healer/druid in patch 1.81 ( = patch-deadline is 1.8 )
Mythic realized... ( Are you Mythic to be able to state what Mythic realized? )
Uthgard GM´s play tanks. ( = not true )

It is not our goal to modify Uthgards game mechanics to your wishes. You all know that we have got strictly set patch standarts and are not going to add single class-features as this would break the "anti customization" door. And please, don't even attempt to begin a discussion like: "But Uthgard is already custom ..." because it is not, though some features are not yet finalized.

Isn't having a 1.80 patch deadline without toa content custom by itself?

I have 4 caster, and just a single NS ...

So i know both sides of the medal. I just dont like if people claim to speak for the server. Thats all

Greetz
Nes

Haldan wrote:It is not our goal to modify Uthgards game mechanics to your wishes. You all know that we have got strictly set patch standarts and are not going to add single class-features as this would break the "anti customization" door. And please, don't even attempt to begin a discussion like: "But Uthgard is already custom ..." because it is not, though some features are not yet finalized.

So OP was right you play tanks. ^^

Haldan wrote:

Facts:

Cure NS was introduced in patch 1.66 as a ML ability. ( = ToA content )
Uthgard is a "classic" server. ( = Classic means no ToA+ features )
Cure NS was added to the healing lines of cleric/healer/druid in patch 1.81 ( = patch-deadline is 1.8 )
Mythic realized... ( Are you Mythic to be able to state what Mythic realized? )
Uthgard GM´s play tanks. ( = not true )

It is not our goal to modify Uthgards game mechanics to your wishes. You all know that we have got strictly set patch standarts and are not going to add single class-features as this would break the "anti customization" door. And please, don't even attempt to begin a discussion like: "But Uthgard is already custom ..." because it is not, though some features are not yet finalized.

I think I´ll just take this one by one.

First, thanks for only partially quoting me. It didn´t work to your intention.

Second; Y E S, I can state what Mythic realized simply because the spell WOULD NOT have been added if it wasn´t. Logic 101.

Third, sorry about the GM´s play tanks thingy.

The point here is, only IF you missed it of course, that it is pretty clear that this ability was intended to be available for gameplay balance purposes. Yes, it came with a TOA tag, and when they made their "classic" servers (1,81) they also realized that they could not remove the ability for the same reason as above.

On one hand you don´t want to open up the pandora´s box which is custom changes (which is fully understandable, but let´s face it: that box was opened up a long time ago and this is just denial), and on the other hand you have the opportunity to actually represent the game as it has been meant to be played.

You can easily say "oh, but with our patch limit it´s not included", but that´s not a fair representation of how the game was played at that point in time. I really do hope that your goal is "have a server which represents how the game was played at his point in time" rather than "have a server with a patch note from a time we consider classic".

Sorry for hurting anyones feelings, but this topic has to be brought up and it is very narrowminded just to attempt to shut it out.

OT: How do we see which users have voted what? 4 no´s = curiosity.

wheelchairbuff wrote:OT: How do we see which users have voted what? 4 no´s = curiosity.

Pick 4 caster with NS

NS is one of the things which make an Eldtritch very usefull in Hibernia. Cure NS would kill that.

If you want to implement Cure NS for everyone, why should I not create a poll tomorrow that Hibernia and Albion need Celerity? Or everyone gets anything else.

NS is mighty, but every realm owns it, so there is no cure ns needed.


Duke

Duke having nor cure nearsight however makes casters less wanted in grps because they are so easyly countered.. 1 nearsighter in a grp could make a whole castergrp worthless in the current setting..


and that means you wont find much else but tank grps on uthgard which is sad for all those who lvl their casters to 50 and never get a chance to rvr in grp

go bomb grp

Duke wrote:NS is one of the things which make an Eldtritch very usefull in Hibernia. Cure NS would kill that.

If you want to implement Cure NS for everyone, why should I not create a poll tomorrow that Hibernia and Albion need Celerity? Or everyone gets anything else.

NS is mighty, but every realm owns it, so there is no cure ns needed.


Duke

LOL

"PLZ NO NS CURE MATE I WANT IMBA PLAYER CHAR NOT REALISTIC GAMEPLAY!!!111oneoenoen"

Well I guess more of these posts will be inc :p

I haven't seen that much "imba nearsighting" yet..

but I also don't think a cure spell would completely kill it.
in a fight, supporters got a whole lot to do.. heal, debuff, cc, surviving, whatever.. in all that chaos a nearsighted group member may have to wait quite some time before he gets the cure.. even longer should the supporter be interrupted, killed or nearsighted himself..

especially with 1.65 I don't see it coming. you have to draw a line..

I voted No cause i want Uthgard full classic.

Ns is an ass pain already with New Ra's, just wait we get Old Ra's and purge each 30 MINUTES .

And wanna remember Uthgard Staff, that wizzard still needs debuff heat+dd in his Fire spec.

Everwar wrote:I voted No cause i want Uthgard full classic.

Ns is an ass pain already with New Ra's, just wait we get Old Ra's and purge each 30 MINUTES .

Yes, AWESOME!!1 casters should end task when they get NS'ed with old RA's! How dare they play a caster when they KNOW this is a tank server!
I don't think I've put in enough exclamation marks in my statement, so heres some more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Everwar wrote:And wanna remember Uthgard Staff, that wizzard still needs debuff heat+dd in his Fire spec.

Not really, don't know where you got your information.

Duke wrote:NS is one of the things which make an Eldtritch very usefull in Hibernia. Cure NS would kill that.

1.) eldritch is the only class with disease in hibernia
2.) cure NS requires a 40 heal spec, which leads to very expensive heals especially with the small powerpools on Uthgard, so yeah there is a drawback to having cure NS

You're talking like NS would become useless and that every healing class could easily access it.

*throws a clue at duke*

Cure NS is seriously needed in this server, beeing a custom change or not it's not difficult to realize that it would be best u could do for balance between casters/supports and tanks. Problem is that it seems that deoping tanks in Uthgard hurts many people(or some important one at least). It's a pity this poll/thread will be worth nothing...