10-15 with melee class (after getting tireless its much better^^). up to lvl10 xping is quite fast, especially when u do some quests.

I joined octobre or november last year, and i could have at least 3 50s by now. That i dont have a single 50 yet has other reasons, then slow xping or something like that.

Sure it helps when u have a highlvl char already, to outfit and give gold another twink. But all in all I dont find it very hard to xp here on uthgard.

Think I should be lucky that my only experience with DAoC before uthgard was european beta for some lvls .

The people who complain loudest about slow xp are almost all current live-players (We even had a guy newly in our guild, who made (dunno for sure) about 8 or 9 lvls, and after that he said he will quit playing here cause of slow xp rate . As chance would have it, he is a current player on liverservers too )

Dont throw away ur chars if u find the first lvls too hard. There is decent xp from lvl35 upwards, besides the xp-boni for BG and so on.

Even if i havent played on live, and thus dont know ho it is to xp there, i would say : change ur way of xping. The techniques to xp you used on live will probably not work on uthgard.

Some tips for beginners:

- Do all quests u can (spare Widower Hunt if u like, for this quest sucks alot ) You can go to Jordheim (Mularn exit) there is the Jrdheim crier. If u ask him for work, he tells you of most quests u can do at your current lvl.

Doing quests not only helps you with xp, but offers some neat items to use for better mob-bashing xp.

- If you solo, dont go at orange con mobs. Mostly its not worth it, for after fight having huge downtime. Yellowcon should be best for you most times, even if they dont bring cap-xp.

- If you grp (depends on grp though) you dont have to go on mobs which give you all cap-xp too. Sometimes its better to kill mobs which are a bit lower, in regards of xp over time.

- Dont run around in grey armor (and by grey i dont mean grey dye ) Not long ago i xpd with someone in varulv, and he told me then that hes wearing grey armor

As said: you can gain equipment through quests, which will help you alot over some lvls.

Another thing would be, that you can ponce off some highlvl chars for money or equipment. Try your luck for this in Jordheim for example.

I have some items i kept for outstuffing new twinks, normally i always have items to give to lowies (and sometimes even not lowies^^) for free + a few coins.

- if u managed to hit lvl 30 (+1 or 2 lvls) and you are a ranged class (runemaster, hunter) i would recommend Odins Gate for you! Look for Frost Giants, cause it seems the frost has gotten to their bones, if u know what i mean .

- grp bonus!!!..........forget about grp-bonus. in most cases its so few xtra xp, that you can better chainpull mobs.

- camp-bonus!!!......Really important!!! Especially if u xp solo. Dont just stay at one spot and kill the mobs over and over again. If u manage to get camp-bonus you will almost everytime cap your xp on yellowcon mobs, and still have good xp and blue con (which are way faster to kill).

- if you are a supporting class, dont xp solo (think thats why they are called supporters, eh?!)

Think ill quit now with tips, there are other things good to know too, but i believe that was enough offtopic now

Have fun!

And ontopic:

Grabbag is a nice thing. I hope it evolves well.

OF - okay for me

1.65:

OF RAs: Bye bye solo stealthing hunter, say hello to always ever grpd bow50/melee46 hunter.

Sorry for complaining about my char will be made obsolete as solo stealthing class, but if I dont do it, only almost all hunters would do.

Gemma wrote:OF RAs: Bye bye solo stealthing hunter, say hello to always ever grpd bow50/melee46 hunter.

Don't forget that there will be no longer Viper like it is currently. In addition you can raise your evadechance directly by skilling Dodger and you can have True Sight as RA. But for sure you may have to alter your casual gameplay, depending on what you want to do.

Nayru wrote:

Gemma wrote:OF RAs: Bye bye solo stealthing hunter, say hello to always ever grpd bow50/melee46 hunter.

Don't forget that there will be no longer Viper like it is currently. In addition you can raise your evadechance directly by skilling Dodger and you can have True Sight as RA. But for sure you may have to alter your casual gameplay, depending on what you want to do.

Viper wouldnt really be much of problem if weaponswap could be restricted.
You could just purge it away then, without fearing that another poisoned weap comes out of the backpack. If purge is not up, well ****** happens.

Dodger is quite a good Ra, but nevertheless hunter will be inferior to other archer classes and even more inferior to true stealthers for only having evade 2 at 1.65.

But nvm, ill look what it brings and if its really impossible to play a hunter without constant leeching/adding i still have some other chars i can play with.

Another thing im not quite sure about if i should look forward for it or not is +castspeed for my rune, but then with all the prerequisites it "looks" pretty expensive to get a good set of ras.

This is another thing i dont feel good about. It seems to me that this prerequisite thing will actually deepen the gap between high and low RRs.

Gemma wrote:

Nayru wrote:

Gemma wrote:OF RAs: Bye bye solo stealthing hunter, say hello to always ever grpd bow50/melee46 hunter.

Don't forget that there will be no longer Viper like it is currently. In addition you can raise your evadechance directly by skilling Dodger and you can have True Sight as RA. But for sure you may have to alter your casual gameplay, depending on what you want to do.

Viper wouldnt really be much of problem if weaponswap could be restricted.
You could just purge it away then, without fearing that another poisoned weap comes out of the backpack. If purge is not up, well ****** happens.

Dodger is quite a good Ra, but nevertheless hunter will be inferior to other archer classes and even more inferior to true stealthers for only having evade 2 at 1.65.

But nvm, ill look what it brings and if its really impossible to play a hunter without constant leeching/adding i still have some other chars i can play with.

Another thing im not quite sure about if i should look forward for it or not is +castspeed for my rune, but then with all the prerequisites it "looks" pretty expensive to get a good set of ras.

This is another thing i dont feel good about. It seems to me that this prerequisite thing will actually deepen the gap between high and low RRs.

I recently stopped soloing because Purge gets me every fight. (non-stealther) I hope we will see some more solo non-stealthers in OF because of the longer timer, and also especially because of no viper. (Yes, I play Hib.)

Please wait and see, I don't think anyone can tell how the Uthgard population will alter their playstyle.

well preventing weapon swap would help ofc on that viper problem, but shield mercs and bms etc would die since they have to swap that sword and shield.

I have noticed, I patched to 1.95.. and in RvR I see players Floating above me now.. just a FYI