Zippiti convinced the GM of upgrade Rangers..
Why shouldn't I try to do same for sb ?

and about the end of stealther i don't speak only about me .. I play sometimes.. but look all stealther on Uthgard , only somebody of them still play , it's a fact.

@ Funkling , you won't get skill in forum , reach 50 with your sb and come duel me.. you will see if i am so bad

Sure, beating a "shadowzerker" with no left axe shouldn't pose much of a problem.

Shadowblades don't need an upgrade, it's just that you're unfamiliar how this game works.

Funkling if you know a lot about sbs, why you don´t show us how to play them? And if you think a little maybe he has 50 axe and 40 or 39 LA. For sb 39 in LA is enought. Big part of sbs use 39 35 35 35 35 spec (39 in LA), who don´t use viper play 50 LA 40 (39) axe, for aurora borealis combo, or 50 axe and 40 (39) LA, for max ws.

Well when a RR 7 shadowblade tells me that he's a shadowzerker and that specing LA doesn't increase his damage, I'm inclined to think that I know a great deal about SBs than he does indeed.
And that if he's hitting people for 50 damage (lets presume that he has at least half a clue and uses a 4.2 speed MH weapon) the problem is between the PC and the chair, not in the class he's playing.

WS in the server is not only spec based but also stat based, just take a look in the growths before/after buffing, also when respeccing.

btw vangonaj plays a valkyn sb, seems he wanted to match the norse's output instead of considering the swing speed imporvement due quickness...

Noir wrote:Zippiti convinced the GM of upgrade Rangers..
Why shouldn't I try to do same for sb ?

and about the end of stealther i don't speak only about me .. I play sometimes.. but look all stealther on Uthgard , only somebody of them still play , it's a fact.

@ Funkling , you won't get skill in forum , reach 50 with your sb and come duel me.. you will see if i am so bad

actually zip didnt got an improve for rangers, it was for all bow users in the server, one of his improvements was to cancel the afcharge+afbase spec stacking...

stop blaming zippity, hes one of the guys who waste his time researching instead of playing so we can get fun !

Happuch wrote:And in my opinion: best ns is Nixian, best sb is Hjodr and the best infi... dunno (all in rr4l9 have viper3, vanish and mos2).

Haven't played against Nixian much except to blow him up with Volley when he was rez sick. Stood back and watched him in many fights tho and never seen him lose, so definitely a scary NS. The only assassin I fear is Muerte. Incredible situational awareness and reaction time. Most assassins panic and make it easy for me when I pop them out of stealth but he performs flawlessly.

Other than that, melee rangers with camo up. Doesn't matter how bad the player is, they'll beat me every time.

it takes patience to wait for camo

1 thing that makes it easier its not adding on every fight.

CalvoHP wrote:it takes patience to wait for camo

1 thing that makes it easier its not adding on every fight.

<sigh> If I added on every 1v1 and 2v2 I've come across, I'd be RR5 by now. If I added your fight, I apologize. But I've passed on many fights where I could have collected easy RPs, and you wouldn't know it because I didn't add.

Noir wrote:Zippiti convinced the GM of upgrade Rangers..
Why shouldn't I try to do same for sb ?

and about the end of stealther i don't speak only about me .. I play sometimes.. but look all stealther on Uthgard , only somebody of them still play , it's a fact.

@ Funkling , you won't get skill in forum , reach 50 with your sb and come duel me.. you will see if i am so bad

I logged 2 days ago with my sb, I met at hib gate 2infi+scout grouped, +2 more infis solos, +1 ranger and 2 nigthshades all in hib gate.

I'm not even 50 so I died, a mid duo rezzed me but I was killed in hib vs alb stealthers fights every 1-2 minutes, didnt even took time to end rez sickness.

I don't think there is no action for stealthers, expecially I don't think assassin's classes are underpowered. They can actually kill anything in agramon

Personally, with lv 48 sb, only haste charge and lv 45 template equip, was able to kill lv 50 ns and some rangers^

Seyha wrote:

CalvoHP wrote:it takes patience to wait for camo

1 thing that makes it easier its not adding on every fight.

<sigh> If I added on every 1v1 and 2v2 I've come across, I'd be RR5 by now. If I added your fight, I apologize. But I've passed on many fights where I could have collected easy RPs, and you wouldn't know it because I didn't add.

hehe i didnt said u were adding, i was just stating that most rangers complain about viper 3 because the add alltime and hardly get camo unless they go afk. getting camo is annoying but worth... at least against assasins

What i hate more than adding is, when people use all their active stuff (RAs and camo), then after the fight run to a safe place and do not come out again until all their active abilities are up again.
I call it cowardice.
I am going out when camo is not up and i am going out if purge and IP are down. Gets me killed sometimes, but better than sitting 10-15 Minutes and put a finger up my nose.

Noir wrote:Zippiti convinced the GM of upgrade Rangers

I'm getting really mad when reading such lines. He did not convince us to upgrade anything, he tests a lot so we can fix existent bugs. Fixing bugs has not the goal to upgrade a class, except the bug is hindering the class!

vangonaj wrote:

Happuch wrote:To topic: My inf has viper 1 and NO buffcharges and I can kill some ppl without all charges or sth else. I'm lvl 48 and can kill some rr5 lvl 50, so what are you whining about Oo

Try kill hight rr blademaster, merce, champ... without pa and cd, only in mele. If you dont use pots and charges you will die sure, and if your enemie go buffed and you without buffs you can start tipe /rel.

ok............
and where is the problem in that?
if you DONT PA/CD, and if you DONT use charges, if you use PURE MEELE, you honestly expect to win against a high RR light tank whos job is pure meele? as a shade? are you out of your mind?
you have all the perks a shade has AND want to outdamage a tank high enough to kill him while you have lower hitpoints?

and just to be sure, your stating here that a fully buffed high rr light tank is supposed to lose against an unbuffed mid rr shade that messes up completly.

if you WOULD win under these circumstances, THAT would be a problem^^

hell lets just give stealthers a 10k damage anytimer, they dont have enough i-win buttons yet.

unbelieveable....

Vagonaj wrote:Try kill hight rr blademaster, merce, champ... without pa and cd, only in mele. If you dont use pots and charges you will die sure, and if your enemie go buffed and you without buffs you can start tipe /rel.

only now i've seen this. ROFL.

okay sir, why is it that my minstrel can't win against any hero, champ, NS, zerk, SB, warrior, savage, (...) in melee? wtf, am I supposed to use stun and mezz and dd's every fight? should I rest for power after every kill??
don't tell me that! i specced high in slashing, i don't want to use my instuments
minstrels are stealthers too, i guess it's the end of them, too