Duke wrote:Pot:
- Value of 51

The pot value should be lower, or not? Something like 35?
Or is there still this bug, that classes with a specced buff-line get higher values from potbuffs?

Rector wrote:

Duke wrote:Pot:
- Value of 51

The pot value should be lower, or not? Something like 35?
Or is there still this bug, that classes with a specced buff-line get higher values from potbuffs?

Would be a costum alchemist nerf. I am looking it up.
Pot / Charge nerfes promote Selfbuffclasses!

Edit: Ingame it has a value of 30 (I am editing it in the post before)

Germans may look at this. There it says: Machtelixir - Str/Con - 30 Value

On Motogs it says value 51.
So I guess Alchypots got raised in their value after 1.80??

Edit: Yep. Changelog 1.85:
http://www.camelotherald.com/article.php?id=404

Alchemy Potion Changes

- The durations for the Strength, Fortitude, Dexterity, Enlightenment, Might, Deftness, Shard Skin, and Speed potions have been increased from 10 minutes to 20 minutes.

- The durations for the Invigoration potions have been increased from 2 minutes to 5 minutes.

- The buff value of the Strength, Fortitude, Dexterity, and Enlightenment potions has been increased from 20 to 34.

- The buff value of the Might and Deftness potions has been increased from 30 to 51.

Duke wrote:

Rector wrote:

Duke wrote:Pot:
- Value of 51

The pot value should be lower, or not? Something like 35?
Or is there still this bug, that classes with a specced buff-line get higher values from potbuffs?

Would be a costum alchemist nerf. I am looking it up.
Pot / Charge nerfes promote Selfbuffclasses!

well, with my scout i get following benefits from pots..
bases +20 (dex, str, con)
specs +36 (S/C and D/Q)

i made em self with my alchi

According to this, the value of speccbuff alchemy potions on Uthgard is even slightly too high in some cases! ;-P [I guess when there is a specced buffline]

Rector wrote:According to this, the value of alchemy potions on Uthgard is even slightly too high! ;-P

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/ ... db2a9a.png

Why does Musikus get +36 instead of +30? Don't just look at the listed value, look at your stats after using the pot.

I get 30 from str/con, 20 points from base buff pots like str, dex, con.

Hmm, just tested Elixir of Might with my Shamy. It gives exactly 30 Str/Con. So my guess, that potion value is wrongly affected by buffspec was wrong. All seems to be fine with potions.

Musikus, could you please test it again? Are you sure that you get 36 instead of 30?

Rector wrote:Hmm, just tested Elixir of Might with my Shamy. It gives exactly 30 Str/Con. So my guess, that potion value is wrongly affected by buffspec was wrong. All seems to be fine with potions.

Musikus, could you please test it again? Are you sure that you get 36 instead of 30?

this must have changed, I remember very well higher pot values! Anyways it looks like it is correct atm (Pots not Charges).

Duke wrote:- You have to Recharge for 10(!) g or 24 BP for each charge

You put the "(!)" after the wrong thing Duke

10g for 1 Charge is fine I think. For a solokill you earn 15g and xxbp's?
I think you should not be able to make big money with PvP if you use charges frequently.

Also.. the Major Recharge Stone has 20 charges and costs 280 bp's. 280bp:20=14bp not 24

So it's 10g at the Recharger-NPC or 14bp with a stone.

Now comes something that's fix-worthy:
3bp = 1 arcanium = 5g 3s 1c
1bp = 1,6667g
14bp = 23,3g

So it's 10g at the Recharger-NPC or 23,3g with a stone.

Rector wrote:

Duke wrote:- You have to Recharge for 10(!) g or 24 BP for each charge

You put the "(!)" after the wrong thing Duke

10g for 1 Charge is fine I think. For a solokill you earn 15g and xxbp's?
I think you should not be able to make big money with PvP if you use charges frequently.

Also.. the Major Recharge Stone has 20 charges and costs 280 bp's. 280bp:20=14bp not 24

So it's 10g at the Recharger-NPC or 14bp with a stone.

Now comes something that's fix-worthy:
3bp = 1 arcanium = 5g 3s 1c
1bp = 1,6667g
14bp = 23,3g

So it's 10g at the Recharger-NPC or 23,3g with a stone.

Thanks a lot for those values!

I think with lower Pots the Charge nerf is quite ok against pots. So only the price is just a joke?

Well, I think, it would be fine if one could say:

It's 10g at the Recharger-NPC or 11g with a stone.


This should be done by increasing the costs of bp-arcanium from 3bp to 5bp (then: 1bp = 1g) and lowering the costs of the Grand Recharge Stone from 280 to 220bp (then: 1Charge=11bp=11g).

I have a lv 48 sb, specced with mos, mop, etcc...

I respecced viper3 to try, and I can easly kill 50s. I also can kill a lv 50 ranger, when i was me alone vs 50 ranger+50 ns duo (even if i died)


Anyway, I'm ok with charge nerf, not with this bp cost for recharges

Demiurgo wrote:

Anyway, I'm ok with charge nerf, not with this bp cost for recharges

/signed