Agramon RvR zone alternative: Old Frontiers Emain Macha.

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Postby wohast » May 20, 2009 14:27

Utes wrote:Livelike RvR setup is not working obviously, instead of slamming face in the keyboard when trying to figure out how to make something work and keep it livelike... embrace the answer that's right infront of you..

Custom balance for global happiness, is the answer.

did you read the post I made about OF system, Blue?


your post about OF system makes me want to slam my face in the keyboard all while attempting to have sex with a porcupine...which is illegal here btw...no offense

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Postby Utes » May 20, 2009 14:29

well seeing your location, it's natural for you to feel the need for sex with the enviroment.. no offense ;)

and no I'm not offended,compared to yours my suggestions were constructive, covering most areas problems, based on previous OF experience...

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Postby Blue » May 20, 2009 14:33

wohast wrote:Livelike RvR setup is not working obviously

?? What are you telling here? Multiple posts in this thread suggest that live like OF DID work.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Utes » May 20, 2009 14:36

Yes, it did work.. ON LIVE, but current situation doesnt and the possible livelike OF future situation also wont..

Ajdust to the community and always leave space for more adjusment if the action/population increases instead of starting everything as a copy of live, then later changing it to another copy of live..

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Postby Blue » May 20, 2009 14:52

Why adjust in the first place? How can you predict how it works out here?

Staff gets critizised by customizing here and there. So why not take a system that actually worked and go for it.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby wheelchairbuff » May 20, 2009 14:57

Utes suggestion is very valid, and an interesting idea, but the focus here is to have a "quick fix" so to speak. In my opinion, his suggestion should be written down as a solution if problems arise in the future, not as a first stage implementation plan.

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Postby Utes » May 20, 2009 15:13

Wheelchairbuff, I dont think anyone even read my OF idea post.

@Blue, what I'm saying is based on experience from live and any other OF shard, all of them which I played intesively.

Each had the exact same problems, milegate camping and 1 realm dominated over other 2..

The solution to those problems was always the same, hibs port at bolg/behnn or nGed, when controling a keep you can also port to it (solved the milegate camping)

Sure, set it as livelike OF, face the same problems everyone has, then patch it with same solutions everyone else did..

Instead of learning from their mistakes :s

Maybe the best way would be, just set the OF livelike as soon as possible and start working on a customized OF while seeing what's not working and adjusting to that....?

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Postby Blue » May 20, 2009 15:25

Currently OF is still not on the table. There will be a solution for Agramon first. There are some staff members who don't like OF of various reasons. Also valid reasons.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Utes » May 20, 2009 15:32

But players love OF. Players are ones that play.

I understand if it's technical reasons, I've heard OF can be a ****** for coders or something..

Other than that, staff should like the fact that players are happy and playing actively in large numbers, isnt that the idea ? ;)

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Postby Soapxy » May 20, 2009 15:44

I remember the OF, probably the NF is nice too, but i really loved the OF, i have clear in my mind all the map of that, i think is for all us the first our RvR zone... how many lovely memories... really beatiful ... a lot of battles on albion-gate on emain.. and on mid-gate too .. is not possible for me describe all.. but it is something that i really miss now :D

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Postby erwondal » May 20, 2009 16:00

i am player and i dont like OF

remember of emain .. yay camping bridge all day uh uh uh..

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Postby Maidrion » May 20, 2009 16:03

erwondal wrote:i am player and i dont like OF

remember of emain .. yay camping bridge all day uh uh uh..


what bridge?

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Postby Zarkor » May 20, 2009 16:05

Blue wrote:Currently OF is still not on the table. There will be a solution for Agramon first. There are some staff members who don't like OF of various reasons. Also valid reasons.


I think we all respect the fact that you're working on bringing us an Agramon solution asap.

Though I'd gladly like to hear those valid reasons ^^.

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Postby wheelchairbuff » May 20, 2009 16:06

Maidrion wrote:
erwondal wrote:i am player and i dont like OF

remember of emain .. yay camping bridge all day uh uh uh..


what bridge?


Nice memory. NF without Agramon != OF

I would also like to hear the reasons.[/quote]

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Postby erwondal » May 20, 2009 16:23

ok not bridge but mile gate :D nearly the same ^^ ;)

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