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Postby vxoe » May 18, 2009 20:44

Greetings,

Herefor i would like to share my experience in agramon rvr zone at the moment. Everyday we pvp for several hours but the last weeks and ill be more specific, since the ports dissapeared, we had almost no more incs in agramon because simple way, without the ports the map is way too big to support 3fgs on each realm. If were lucky and its primetime, we'll have 4fg's on each realm, But still the zone is way too big for 3 times 4 fgs!

I love the idea to make it livelike without ports, but we are losing people on the server because of this issue. We have alot less more fun and i bet more people feel the same like i do. We already posted a topic about this, Nammoth did atleast and the GM just simply told us this discussion is going is going nowhere and he locked our topic.

What i suggest is that we try to resolve this problem not by setting back ports, not asking for that, but simply make the rvr action interesting again, because getting 1 inc in 2-3 hours aint fun.

Best of luck
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Postby wheelchairbuff » May 18, 2009 20:47

Ibtl

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Postby Blue » May 18, 2009 20:48

Its strange, everytime I look into Agramon I see fights at some Milegate. I see often the opposite of what is written here in the forum.
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Postby wheelchairbuff » May 18, 2009 20:50

Look ingame now :)

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Postby Schwede » May 18, 2009 20:50

Blue wrote:Its strange, everytime I look into Agramon I see fights at some Milegate. I see often the opposite of what is written here in the forum.


It's strange that we roam around for hours without seeing any killspam or incs besides a few stealthers yet you keep saying the opposite.

It's ok it's not your problem, it's the high rr pansies who wipe to low rr groups and lof off :p

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Postby Nammoth » May 18, 2009 20:58

Blue wrote:Its strange, everytime I look into Agramon I see fights at some Milegate. I see often the opposite of what is written here in the forum.


Strange every time we're in agramon there are no incs for like 2 hours. If you want i have 2 hours of fraps footage showing "amazing" agramon pvp action (had 1 fg inc and 1 solo). And two group in agramon fightning near milegate is in my opinion hardly an action. In my opinion what should be the ultimate achievement in dark age of camelot, lvl50 rvr is reduced to 8v8 arena vs same two or three groups roaming around.


The only day when we had some semi-decent action was last sunday. There were some incs, and action was not all that bad.

If you really think that camp removal is a good think - thats fine with me. But i think that you should implement some means of getting people to 50 rvr. Increasing XP bonus and giving RvR horses cleary didn't do anything. At the beggining you said that it would take few days till people find some new "hot spots" and action would return to normal. "Well, let's give it a try" - i said. One month already passed and action is even worse by the day.

Best of luck
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Postby vxoe » May 18, 2009 21:04

Blue wrote:Its strange, everytime I look into Agramon I see fights at some Milegate. I see often the opposite of what is written here in the forum.



We just standed in the middle of agramon for half an hour frapsing we saw 2 killspam! and thats alot! It also has nothing to do with high rr's spanking low rr's because we are low and we win any day from morrigans breath. like nammoth said, the only action that was good was on sunday. I hope you realise the server is not improving like this, on the contrary.

Also i would like to add to this that players suggestions should not be locked if its a topic that is important! Locking isnt a solution!

Greets

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Postby Blue » May 18, 2009 21:20

But dont you see it that it depends on players?

If there are enough players roaming then there will be action. If players don't log in and go for it theres not much that can be done. If you just watch killspam messages and stand around in the center of Agramon this won't help either.

We removed boat routes to promote routes through Agramon. Camps is the last we will do since camps will again form 50 RvR into a BG.

Last but not least when you seek inc try to claim a tower and most propably they will come. Perhaps don't focus too much on Agramon.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Nammoth » May 18, 2009 21:25

My suggestion is ls to try and lower agramon rvr zone by some means, it's way too big as is. Maybe also return agramon central keep? Also it would be nice to add zone names to zones between milegates and last portal keep. Currently they're named as "agramon" in killspam, so it's really hard to locate where fights currently are. Or maybe thats just an anti-adder-zerger feature ?

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Postby vxoe » May 18, 2009 21:28

Yet AGAIN im telling you that i do not ask for ports. All i ask for is a better solution then you came up with now. We have tried taking towers, killing people on horses everything and it does not depend on people.

If you have bad luck and there are 2 fg from an other realm out, you dont run in eachother for over half an hour since the zone is just to big. Dont you understand that when 600 people are on in primetime every realm has approximately 3fgs running like i said before. The zone we have to cover even with speed 6 would take too long for decent action.
Its hard to explain if you dont play yourself for several hours in primetime.
We can compare the action by really good days, you can't.
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Postby Schwede » May 18, 2009 21:28

Blue wrote:If you just watch killspam messages and stand around in the center of Agramon this won't help either.


What can we do ? Dual log and fight ourselves ?

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Postby Blue » May 18, 2009 21:29

Just logged in. Currently 148 players in NF.

First I suggest to find an unwritten hotspot for action. For example use always hib Milegate.
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It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Nammoth » May 18, 2009 21:30

Blue wrote:But dont you see it that it depends on players?

If there are enough players roaming then there will be action. If players don't log in and go for it theres not much that can be done. If you just watch killspam messages and stand around in the center of Agramon this won't help either.

We removed boat routes to promote routes through Agramon. Camps is the last we will do since camps will again form 50 RvR into a BG.

Last but not least when you seek inc try to claim a tower and most propably they will come. Perhaps don't focus too much on Agramon.


I'm just doing my posts in comparison with action from one month ago. If it depends only on players, why did people have 500k+ LWRP on uthgard-herald, and now you can't find anyone above 160k ?

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Postby Schwede » May 18, 2009 21:30

Blue wrote:Just logged in. Currently 148 players in NF.
:roll:

Because of a relic raid. Before that agramon was empty for 3+ hours.

Basically every time we want inc we have to siege a relic and wait for 60 alb mages to log on.

Perfect.

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Postby Blue » May 18, 2009 21:32

Nammoth wrote:I'm just doing my posts in comparison with action from one month ago. If it depends only on players, why did people have 500k+ LWRP on uthgard-herald, and now you can't find anyone above 160k ?

Because if people camp near camp spots its easy to kill every spawn there. Its permanent inc. There were 3 places where inc came in. That were 3 hotspots. Currently there are 6 places where new players enter Agramon. A bit more difficult to control.
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It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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