I was thinking if there waa any chance to see a lower price for bountypoints recharge stones:

1 recharge = 10 golds
1 respec stone = 1-2 plats

1 respec stone = 1000-2000 bp
-> 1 recharge should value 10 bps. If a recharge stone got 20 recharges -> 200 bps.


About horses: I still didn't do the quest but I heard that lv 50 horse cost 15p!!! I can understand the restriction of 5l0 (to move people to rvr) but I really see no reason of passing around 10 hours farming money to buy it

I though the problem was agramon rvr, not the low number of farming money people

I'm fine with 10BP per recharge but that doesnt mean anything

Horses were originally not meant to improve RvR but as achievement. Maybe we can offer horses for BP's too.

Blue wrote:I'm fine with 10BP per recharge but that doesnt mean anything

Horses were originally not meant to improve RvR but as achievement. Maybe we can offer horses for BP's too.

if you are fine with 10BP per charge would you mind trying to convince rest of staff that this is good idea? ^^

also horses for BPs = lovely - no need to go pve to 30p if i can rvr to RR10 and not care about my money less pve more rvr.. i like it - <presses the implement now button> (wow wish there were such a button)

Of what i see it in hib, 1bp is worth 1 gold. and recharging on the recharge merchant cost 10 gold per charge. So changing it so 10bp = 1 charge, it would be able the same cost. But there is a diff. You can use these recharge stones in the field. That alone makes them better, so you should have to pay for it. That is why they cost more, then just 10bp.

And yes i think horses are very expensive, but yes they are a achievment. But im not looking forword to spending, what is it 16 plat for my rr5 rvr mount lol. So a horse or a full mp RF armor set, umm.

Blue wrote:I'm fine with 10BP per recharge but that doesnt mean anything

Horses were originally not meant to improve RvR but as achievement. Maybe we can offer horses for BP's too.

Recharge stones are very expensive if you play soloer that need buffs. And horses ... need farm a little.

About horses: I still didn't do the quest but I heard that lv 50 horse cost 15p!!! I can understand the restriction of 5l0 (to move people to rvr) but I really see no reason of passing around 10 hours farming money to buy it
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plz tell me where i can farm 15 plat in 10 hours, i would love to know

currently of what i seen , recharge stones cost 4 gold more, then going to the recharge merchant. Thats if 1bp worth = 1gold worth. So your paying 40% more, to be able to recharge anywhere, i think that is quiet cheap, for what your getting, if not too cheap lol. If your spending charges to fast solo, try choosing what charges to put on first and what ones to put on , before entering a fight. Save your charges till you need them, or untill you find a spot that your regularly seeing enemys, that you can depend on seeing an enemy soon. I know many like to use there charges before combat or seeing any enemy, just incase they get jumped, and so they can have more then one charged buff on at one time. But your buffs are just a plus to your class, since you cant spec it, so dont depend on them so much, Unless you got the bp to spend.

Monty:
Farm seals in DF, buy equipment, salvage and craft hinges and earn gold
Farm on interesting monsters that drop for example jewels and earn gold (I suggest to test finliaths, jotun despots, hwch ddu gotas in our rvr zone)Do RvR, kill players and earn gold
Do RvR kill players, covert BP into arcanite, convert arcanite to hinges and earn gold

... there are a lot of possibilities that offer you to earn enough gold to buy a mount. The BP amount of the top ranking BP owners would be enough to convert into more than 50platinum! Maybe you should all first think on what possibilities you have got instead of argueing about a price that is not too high!

i would gladly pay 30p for a horse that is fully implemented, not just like a 1 plat one with just a better look and 19% more speed.

i was not arguing the price i was just asking how someone could farm 15 plat in a day, withouth having to go pvp or burn all bountypoints.

i have spent most of my free time solo in dartmoore lately, salvaging most drops and i get an average of 300 to 400 gold an hour if i'm lucky,
just asked if there where still spots left that gave more...

the prices of the horses seem fair to me,

Well in terms of BP it would "only" be around 20,000BP you'd have to convert into gold. Of course one could think about offering optional BPprices, but these would be at least a little bit higher than 20k due to the not needed conversion (BP->arcanite->hinges).

@ monty: in Spindelh from crasb i was able to farm around 1,5 p at hours if i remind well^. Of course you need none steling the spot


@ bp vs money: it's true that you can recharge with bp stone whenever if you want, but if there would be a price different it would be better to recharge at npg when you die^ the difference is not so huge.
Also, bp are harder to farm than golds. If you go farm money you surely will have xxx golds, but if you make 1 day in rvr (or 1 week, or months ) you are not sure you will even get 1 bp.

With a 5l8 i have 6k or 7k bps (and i didnt use them to buy new expensive bp stones), if a horse needs 15p/15k bp when shall i buy the rr5 horse? At 10l i guess^

So please tell me, Haldan, how long it would take a fresh lvl 50 ranger (assuming 4l2 from thid) in this current rvr-situation to get an appropriate ammount of bps for that mount?

Under normal circumstances, i'd agree, that the price was high, but ok. The rr5-horse is something special and should take a certain effort to achieve it.

But in this broken RvR-envirronment (obviously only for some classes/playstyles) everyone had hoped, that horses could help with this miserable situation. The way it is implemented now, it won't.

Fix RvR should have top priority. If RvR had been the same like before the removal of camps/porters everyone would have simply rejoiced and accepted the high prices of horses without much critizism.

Fresa.

P.s.: I do like the horse-quests. Very well done, mythic never did such things any better, and they weren't so bad in that regard. I even liked the story. It is fun and somewhat realistic. Beautiful work there!

A bit more documentation of small changes in the /changelog would be great (purple sharks near agramon bridges, augmenting the value of str/con potions from 20 to 30 pts).

horses are not supposed to fix rvr, they are just e-peen exten... euhm I mean achievement

I do ok with earning BP on my ranger at 4L7, well its been alot slower lately, but hopefuly they got something cooking to give the assasins and other solos a place to camp and gank people lol. And as a ranger, if you want the gold for a mount, then farming BP for it. Go to the bog and farm some bog frogs. Normaly drop 10-15g or more a kill. And if you can find the good spot, youl have really no down time on killing them. But i dont want to give away my spot lol. You can find it, just enter the zone and go down .