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SpiritMaster Summoning Line

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israfel1984 Guardian Posts: 2 Joined: Jul 14, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by israfel1984 » Jul 22, 2008 06:36 When use Buff on pets (double cost\strenght) in summoning line, but even Healer BaseCost, Nothing Change, I'm sure of it. I think Buffs generally don't work on spirit master pet. (works only DamageShield 60sec buff) I know you are working on it, but they say me to ask here. Thank You

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Jul 22, 2008 13:29 Con buffs should definitely have some significant effect on incoming damage. It increases absorb and was done that way some days ago. How do you determine whether "nothing changes". It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

israfel1984 Guardian Posts: 2 Joined: Jul 14, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by israfel1984 » Jul 22, 2008 16:10 When I do a Buff and Heal the pet there is No Hp difference. That's why I said that.

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Jul 22, 2008 18:00 You cant influence the HP pool by a buff. Heals should have effect on your pet. Con Buffs increase absorb on pets instead HP-Pool. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Lev Gryphon Knight Posts: 260 Joined: Jul 10, 2008 00:00 Location: in Albion exile	Reply with quote by Lev » Aug 06, 2008 09:43 Blue wrote:Con buffs should definitely have some significant effect on incoming damage. It increases absorb and was done that way some days ago. How do you determine whether "nothing changes". because i thought the absorb would not be effected by buffs on my SM pets, i did a quick test. i killed three werewolf churls in varulvhamm without buffs and then three with buffs. i'm a lvl34 SM with 30+4 summoning. the werewolf churls were all lvl34 (because they all conned yellow). the buffs were Vitality of Valhalla, Valkyrie's Vigilance and Spirit of Battle. the pet used was the spirit fighter. incoming damage on pet ----------------- ohne Buffs Anzahl 89 Range 24 bis 41 Schnitt 31.82 mit Buffs Anzahl 113 Range 22 bis 37 Schnitt 29.09 ----------------- damage done by pet ----------------- ohne Buffs Anzahl 71 Range 16 bis 27 Schnitt 21.56 mit Buffs Anzahl 111 Range 16 bis 27 Schnitt 19.05 ----------------- the damage done by the pet seems not be be affected by the buffs and the reduction of the incoming damage seems to low to me. in 100 taken hits the buffs did reduce the damage for 3 pts (average) only. i can send my chat.log if this is needed.

Thraxia Eagle Knight Posts: 847 Joined: Oct 29, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by Thraxia » Aug 06, 2008 10:30 3 points decrease at an average of 32 would be 10% - that's alot IMO. <img src="http://www.fallenearth.fr/daoc/daoc2.php?player=Thraxia" />

Pirith Gryphon Knight Posts: 499 Joined: Aug 31, 2005 00:00 Location: Muspelheim aus [M]idgard.	Reply with quote by Pirith » Aug 06, 2008 11:55 And test on level 5 or so pets are not really relevant. I personally ran a battery of test with a lvl 40 pet, and the strength significantly raise the damage of the cap. As well as haste d/q increase speed and decrease dmg per hit. So far the effect is present fo all buff, now to tell if it's exact my knowledge of spiritmaster is almost inexistent to do anything valuable. Regards, Pirith. Nomad Jarl home

Lev Gryphon Knight Posts: 260 Joined: Jul 10, 2008 00:00 Location: in Albion exile	Reply with quote by Lev » Aug 06, 2008 12:40 Pirith wrote:And test on level 5 or so pets are not really relevant. I personally ran a battery of test with a lvl 40 pet, and the strength significantly raise the damage of the cap. As well as haste d/q increase speed and decrease dmg per hit. So far the effect is present fo all buff, now to tell if it's exact my knowledge of spiritmaster is almost inexistent to do anything valuable. Regards, Pirith. the spirit fighter pet was lvl29. every other pet would be lvl29 too. the fighter is the only pet a summ SM will use in pve, because it has no defensive abilities. this is good because then the pet will get hit more and thus you do more dps through the focus shield. when it comes to the buffs, i don't care about the damage output of the pet (in pve), all i care about is the absorb gained. i like to do another test with shaman buffs, but unfortunately varulvhamm was completely empty yesterday.