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Armsman Race Choice

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Ownnyn Eagle Knight Posts: 513 Joined: Jul 06, 2017 05:59	Reply with quote by Ownnyn » Apr 18, 2018 16:07 Spivo wrote:For a class that wants to slam people, and land styles, being able to swing fast enough to get through PBT sounds like a positive. 0 quickness with massive style damage sounds great and those large hits looks awesome, but reality is that you'll be useless in fights if 50% of your attacks are blocked by pbt. Thats what haste is for Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

Requin Eagle Knight Posts: 878 Joined: Jan 11, 2017 21:32	Reply with quote by Requin » Apr 18, 2018 16:26 Haste, quickness, mastery of arms, celerity, dual wield and weapon speed. Reminder to Self: Quality over Quantity, what is the Value here?

Hasbulat Myrmidon Posts: 124 Joined: Jun 21, 2017 11:21	Reply with quote by Hasbulat » May 08, 2018 08:33 Requin wrote: Ownnyn wrote: I also remember a coversation with Blue stating style damage is also effected by quickness. Its why alot of armsman build 0 quick templates. So that each hit is as high as possible. I had a few conversations with Grevard about this. He ran all 3 damage types, full polearms and like 35ish in all thrust/slash/crush. 0 shield. He claimed to hit for over 750. If true, 5-10% is alot (37-75). It could mean the diffetence between 2 shotting someone and 3 shotting...or them getting that heal. On a train, 2x750=1500 damage. A potential 1 shot. 2x675=1350, player probably survives that round. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk Yes quickness negatively affects style damage, because style damage is based on your attack speed. However, unstyled-damage is boosted by quickness since it is based on weapon DPS. Try to forget your mathemathics and try to apply the figures to the game. Quickness - forget more or less damage. Quickness should be allways maxed. Forget comparisons between Avalonians and Highlander WA. It could sounds like not as important, but the success or defeat in the game is in those small differences. And WA for Melees is the main important thing. And the difference between first choice for the class and worst choice is realy huge. It is possible to play an arms as avalonian. But you will stay gimped. Same, like a troll-caster.

threer Myrmidon Posts: 64 Joined: Mar 25, 2017 13:11	Reply with quote by threer » May 08, 2018 13:00 Highlander is the best offensive choice, no doubt. There could be an argument for higher Dex classes when you see your main role being a peeler, but even here, a Highlander fills this role well, too. It is only the skirt which makes the Highlander a horrible choice. That being said, DAoC is a group game. Your characters starting stats are completely irrelevant compared to your group setup and the teamwork in your group. Your RR14 Ogre Armsman will not even be noticed when you run with a casual group vs. a practiced 8men. Last edited by threer on May 08, 2018 15:10, edited 1 time in total.

Hasbulat Myrmidon Posts: 124 Joined: Jun 21, 2017 11:21	Reply with quote by Hasbulat » May 08, 2018 14:57 That is absolutely true. Besides of personal skill of player in front of PC, there are lot of other things playing a big role. I know lot of people, enjoying the toon they play without being FOTM-choice. Just made the choice of race by RPG-decision or just because of aesthetics. No problem. But we have spoken here about optimum.

Spivo Eagle Knight Posts: 1006 Joined: Aug 15, 2011 14:29 Location: Denmark	Reply with quote by Spivo » May 08, 2018 15:10 Pretty sure most would notice a RR14 Ogre on Uthgard. Albion and having fun