I have come full circle! DAoC, WoW, Warhammer, and now back to DAoC. It has been forever since I last played, and all of this is new and fresh to me again.

With that in mind, I am trying to decide on a class. I always tend to lean towards a supporting role. I originally played a Mana Mentalist, and in WoW I played a Restoration Druid.

Barring Mana Mentalist (I would like to have more survivability this time) the obvious choices are Warden, Druid, and Bard.

Could you give me a summation of each (i.e. perks/cons)?

Also, which of these classes is in short supply?

And, which is the most desirable in realm warfare?


Lastly, could you suggest some English-speaking guilds that are accepting new members?



Thanks for bearing with me, and I'm looking forward to becoming a part of your community.

Solas wrote:I have come full circle! DAoC, WoW, Warhammer, and now back to DAoC. It has been forever since I last played, and all of this is new and fresh to me again.

With that in mind, I am trying to decide on a class. I always tend to lean towards a supporting role. I originally played a Mana Mentalist, and in WoW I played a Restoration Druid.

Barring Mana Mentalist (I would like to have more survivability this time) the obvious choices are Warden, Druid, and Bard.

Could you give me a summation of each (i.e. perks/cons)?

Also, which of these classes is in short supply?

And, which is the most desirable in realm warfare?


Lastly, could you suggest some English-speaking guilds that are accepting new members?



Thanks for bearing with me, and I'm looking forward to becoming a part of your community.

Hey and welcome back from the darkside!

I'll give u a quick overview of each class in RvR, PvE is another thing.

Bard: Every hib grp has one Bard. They're Hibs main CC class (mezz). Their other tools are songs (speed, endurance & power regen), base buffs, demezz and interrupts. Doesn't do much healing as you mainly have druids for that but still useful as a backup. Not an easy class so good bards are in short supply.

Druid: Hibernia's main healer class. Every rvr grp has 2 or more.
Apart from being main healers they have acces to spec buffs. Other useful tools are roots and buffshears. Like Bards you have a pretty wide range of tasks having to keep your grp members up, steal buffs from your foes, rooting enemy tanks/supporters and some interrupting aswell.
My personal favourite class as I've always liked healing classes + you get some goodies to toy around with. There's quite a few druids around but since every grp needs atleast two I think it's a safe bet concerning groups.

Warden: Hibernias third support class. A Warden brings some gadgets but as a genuin jack-of-all-trades doesn't shine at any. He has resist buffs (body/energy/spirit), dmg add and bladeturn, base buffs, some heals (comparable to bard) and he can spec in melee lines. With his selfbuffs the Warden is a pretty decent solo class but in groups he's not very wanted. They can get a very nice RA called Anger of the Gods which is nice in tank groups but in general people prefer a light eldritch or another blademaster. His main role in groups is interrupting and backup heals cause his dmg is subpar. You will be able to find groups as there are few Wardens around and they're pretty handy in hib tank grps but since some or even most groups run without one, a Druid or Bard might be a safer bet.

It's been a while since I xp'ed on Hib so might not be 100% accurate but I think the biggest English-speaking guild around is still Mystical Knights. If you're closer to 50 Vanquish might be an option aswell. But my advise is that you just start out in the starters guild and get to know people and guilds while you level up and you'll find the right one for you soon enough.
Like I said, I'm not too sure what english-speaking guilds are active below 50.

maidrion pretty much said it all but just wanted to say that yes Mystical Knights are active and big still and are accepting members but as he suggested you should really stick around in either starter guild or unguilded and get to know people and guilds and then make a choice


ps. roll bard or druid for an 90% security of a grp (atleast if ur good )

Bard is a highly demanding class in RvR and should only be considered if you're willing to take up the challenge and very high learning curve.

Even if you manage to handle all your skills well, you still have to be able to lead a grp and find routes which allow you to prevent getting jumped or even flank enemies yourself.

Bards will not get much immediate credit apart from 1 or 2 things: a good mezz and demezz. However you will see fingers pointing at you for a lot of possible mistakes such as forgetting to run endu in fights, losing messes, being unable to demezz, bad driving, not paying attention enough to what your group is doing, not noticing stickloss, ....

Keep in mind that especially inbetween battles, bards take up the resposibility to keep their group alive, together and fed with inc.


In my opinion if you're just picking up DAoC again, start with a warden, good solo PvE class, fun in BGs and average in RvR. It will at least give you a chance to learn the basics again and the opportunity to pick your main class with more certainty since u've seen what's around and what does what again. Not to mention you will have a little bit of backup gear and funds to help your main gear up better.
However, you're free to pick any class of course and picking your main as first char is defintately viable if you're certain about it, since you will be in groups most of the time which makes you less gear-dependant to XP.

Zarkor wrote:Bard is a highly demanding class in RvR and should only be considered if you're willing to take up the challenge and very high learning curve.

Even if you manage to handle all your skills well, you still have to be able to lead a grp and find routes which allow you to prevent getting jumped or even flank enemies yourself.

Bards will not get much immediate credit apart from 1 or 2 things: a good mezz and demezz. However you will see fingers pointing at you for a lot of possible mistakes such as forgetting to run endu in fights, losing messes, being unable to demezz, bad driving, not paying attention enough to what your group is doing, not noticing stickloss, ....

Keep in mind that especially inbetween battles, bards take up the resposibility to keep their group alive, together and fed with inc.

Yes, or how daocpedia says:

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Es ist eine Herausforderung für sich, den Frust der Gruppe zu ertragen. Hat man alles richtig gemacht, dann ist es ausschließlich die Gruppe die es gut gemacht hat und nicht der Barde.

in english something like:

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It´s a big challenge to tolerate the frustration of the group. But if you have done all your things fine, it´s only the group that has done well and not the bard.

Very helpful posts, thank you. I've narrowed it down.

Don't play bard unless you've spent 7000 days in a Siberian prison or received spartan training. A mere human can not tolerate the frustration

Zarkor wrote:In my opinion if you're just picking up DAoC again, start with a warden, good solo PvE class, fun in BGs and average in RvR. It will at least give you a chance to learn the basics again and the opportunity to pick your main class with more certainty since u've seen what's around and what does what again. Not to mention you will have a little bit of backup gear and funds to help your main gear up better.
However, you're free to pick any class of course and picking your main as first char is defintately viable if you're certain about it, since you will be in groups most of the time which makes you less gear-dependant to XP.

I would pick a bm or hero instead or a eld/chanter if your more into casters. Warden might be a decent solo char, but its allso alot harder to get Rvr grps with a warden as the only think you really provide is dmg and and AoG with RR's.. The general oppinion in f.eks our guild is that warden is a wasted spot, but again thats just how we play it.. Play what you wanna play as you have to lvl to 50 so better play something you can stick to in the long run.

Sali wrote:

Zarkor wrote:In my opinion if you're just picking up DAoC again, start with a warden, good solo PvE class, fun in BGs and average in RvR. It will at least give you a chance to learn the basics again and the opportunity to pick your main class with more certainty since u've seen what's around and what does what again. Not to mention you will have a little bit of backup gear and funds to help your main gear up better.
However, you're free to pick any class of course and picking your main as first char is defintately viable if you're certain about it, since you will be in groups most of the time which makes you less gear-dependant to XP.

I would pick a bm or hero instead or a eld/chanter if your more into casters. Warden might be a decent solo char, but its allso alot harder to get Rvr grps with a warden as the only think you really provide is dmg and and AoG with RR's.. The general oppinion in f.eks our guild is that warden is a wasted spot, but again thats just how we play it.. Play what you wanna play as you have to lvl to 50 so better play something you can stick to in the long run.

Yea sure, I just said warden is good to start if u're not sure about what you really wanna play in end-RvR.

I just think it would suck to lvl 1 char > go to RvR and realise its useless > lvl a new char ^^

Sali wrote:I just think it would suck to lvl 1 char > go to RvR and realise its useless > lvl a new char ^^

Like I said, not if you're not confident about what you really wanna play in RvR. You can go out with a warden, get an idea of what every class is like again and decide on that, besides that you also have gathered some connections and resources for your future RvR char.

I've never said Warden is a class u'd be happy to play as main RvR char in general.

Sali wrote:I just think it would suck to lvl 1 char > go to RvR and realise its useless > lvl a new char ^^

Your first char doesnt have to be successful in RvR, more important it is that it is successful in PvE imo. A successful farming-char will get u enough money-cushion and items to roll and lvl another (RvR-)char in no time to 50, and you will never have real probs with insufficient funds.

I had to make 6 chars to realise that

Thats why im rolling a cave/aug shaman now

Eww no, I started new on Alb and levelled to 50. Didn't like my class in RvR but couldn't be bothered doing it anew. Just give it some thought before u get going. Levelling once to 50 in the painful way still beats having to do it twice

Maidrion wrote:Eww no, I started new on Alb and levelled to 50. Didn't like my class in RvR but couldn't be bothered doing it anew. Just give it some thought before u get going. Levelling once to 50 in the painful way still beats having to do it twice

The first 50 will be able to make it considerably less painful for the 2nd tho, and you don't have to get it to 50, you can always drop it when you feel like u're ready for yr main char.

Anyway it's all personal preference, good luck on Uthgard.
Edit: You'll need it!