6Dragon6 wrote:Fooling around with the charbuilder I found this one like the most interesting without AT:

Hybrid Ranger Spec:
Pathfinding = 40
Stealth = 35
Bow = 35
Celtic Dual = 18
Piercing = 37

This specs sucks, tried like 100k rps as hybrid (with 18 in cd) and i hated it, bow dmg is unreliable with lots of misses even at 35 + 16 in bow, besides nearly every stealther has vanish and will use it when u start firing at them and with the distance i had trouble finding them again even with mos4 and running around looking for em visible will get u a PA in the head.

At pure melee u will get tosted with just 18 in cd, trust me i have tried. In melee u have to use CD styles as pierce/blade ones totally suck so a minimum will be 35 in cd.

Only a high RR ranger will manage hybrid spec without being a gimp in melee but if u are low and still wants it i suggest going 27 in bow and 31 in pf. The u can still have good cd and do nice melee dmg.

I say hybrid spec is a good way to gimp ur char, u will be ****** at both melee and bow and have to waste ra points in high mos.

Play full bow for leecher/grouping mode at amg or full melee for fun soloing.

Jonah wrote:Play full bow for leecher/grouping mode at amg or full melee for fun soloing.

/disagree Jonah

I´m doing fine soloing while being "leech specced"!

Snigel wrote:I´m doing fine soloing while being "leech specced"!

That's because as a sniper spec your most dangerous opponents are other archers, and hardly anyone plays Scouts and Hunters on this server.

With a melee spec how poor would the bow damage be?

6Dragon6 wrote:With a melee spec how poor would the bow damage be?

Bow damage dont raise much above 51 composite spec. Like Seyha stated in another thread, he does about 400 dmg on weak armor with 46+17. I do around 250 with 12+14. So, the about 40 points more in bow brings about 30% to 40% more damage.

6Dragon6 wrote:With a melee spec how poor would the bow damage be?

With a melee spec u only use the bow for poping bladeturn just before engage with sidestun and interupts when rooted. Not worth using else tbh, u will loose position and reweal yourself and the bowshoots will just be miss miss evade anyway.

Hmm and with the Pathfinding runspeed buff you can easily catch any runaway foe I guess, so bow will be useless.

I work to final spec my Ranger (49.9 atm needs to cap Thid) at
48 PF
35 Recurve
34 Pierce
30 Stealth
19 CD

48 PF will provide with WC to outmatch every other stealther, fastest swing speed and the best possible AF & DA.
SC is pretty difficult to do, given that needs some pretty exotic material, however that's I have my Champion for
And yes AT the recurve is paramount.

Other than that for pure assassin killer
46 PF
39 Pierce/Blades
33 CD
30 Stealth
12 Recurve (AT)
however requires high RR to achieve, and many RAs. (Toughness 3, IP2, Purge1, PD3, MoS 3+)
And is the setup I run on Excalibur with high success.

6Dragon6 wrote:Hmm and with the Pathfinding runspeed buff you can easily catch any runaway foe I guess, so bow will be useless.

yeah its so fun when a gimp minstrel tries to sos away, speedshout > sos1 in speed so u will catch up before he can put normal speed on and backsnare him

Hi i'm a celt ranger lvl 38 (10 str con dex)

What do y think about this spec ?

31 path
35 bow
35 blade
35 stealth
36 cd

or it's better to drop cd for the yellow add demage ?

36 path
35 bow
35 blade
35 stealth
31 cd

i want to play hybrid!

Thx for the advice!

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I think the difference between both is quite negligible

Also remember when specing and choosing a play style, that we will be going to old ra and old stealth system at some point, so if your new to the archer, it maybe better to get use to the fact you will not have MoS for bow spec or for kiting by restealthing. I currently run with only MoS2 with my Hybrid spec and can do fine , and even Critshot from stealth vs assasins who are also stealthed with a little thinking of how my enemy may react.

On specs, there is many out there, but after testing how are stats affect melee, it is very little. Like specing to 48 or even 50 PF to up your melee, will not benifit as much as you think, the damage add at 46 PF is the only thing worth it. Bow on the other hand will benifit from the higher PF, unless you lower your bow spec to get the higher PF, which in that case, you maybe achiving the same bow damage as you would have with lower PF and higher bow spec. Here is the hybrid spec i would recommend at 50 for a luri/pierc spec.

34 stealth
39 pierc
21 cd
35 bow
40 pf

or

34 stealth
34 pierc
21 cd
40 bow
40 pf

After testing, both theses specs seem to preform about the same for me. Melee dmg seems to be about the same, maybe sometimes a point or two higher with 39 pierc on some hits, and a little higher bow dmg on some hits, since the large varience will hide those benefits sometimes. You can try out many specs, but what really matters is your RAs, like IP2 or higher, purge 1 or higher, and some Physical Defense / Toughness for survival. With out IP and other RAs, you may find the best spec just doesnt cut it, depending your enemy and your opening.

Just rolled a Celt ranger i plan on going full melee with as Pierce, anyone suggest a rr4 spec ?

You can try this spec with your celt melee ranger at rr4.

Pierc: 36
CD: 39
PF: 42
Stealth: 35
Bow: 12 AutoTrain

RAs

Ignore Pain 2
Purge 1
MoS 2

6 RA pts left over.

You will want IP2 and at least Purge 1 (Time purge on possible stuns coming, like slam is predictable)

Few more ranks and you can up your Physical Defense and or Toughness. You could also get MoS 3, but isnt really needed for melee and when old ra's come, you will not have it anyway. My hybrid bow/melee ranger runs with IP2, purge 1 and MoS2 just fine. I dont run full melee, so im sure other full melee rangers could have better advice on spec.

what do u think about those 2 specs?which is better
(rr5)
blade 36
CD 39
PF 42
stealth 35

or

blade 39
CD 36
PF 42
stealth 35