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Thalien
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Postby Thalien » May 29, 2012 19:55

mcl imo too :)
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Postby pweet » May 30, 2012 00:16

you need SoS2 to counter Jugger, so SoS2 > mcl + other stuff.
i dont know how many rps left for u to get sos2, but i d advice u going sos2 asap instead of dex3, since its pretty big ving sos2 or sos1 vs a kabba grp, which u ll face pretty often atm, since even the worst cabbas know about the power of jugger on uth.

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Postby Nef Melody » May 30, 2012 03:25

As soon as you hit 5L1, these are the absolute basics.
Purge3
dex2
mof1
lw1
sos 1

After that : moc1, mcl1, sere 1-2 in this order.

At higher rr's :
The right way -> am2 sos2 (sos2 is better -> never ever go for AM1, waste of points)
The Cait way -> Moc 3 !!!

Specs :
The fail way -> 47 music, 43 nurt (there are some points that speak for this spec but believe me, it sucks)
The better way -> 37 music, 43 nurt, 33 regrowth
The Cait way (aka. the pro way) -> 43nurture 44music 20regrowth 12 weapon




I can tell you various reasons for all those decisions, but I don't want to write them all down, just believe me :)

pS : I don't recommend to go for the Cait way, unless you really know what you're doing.
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Postby Fabulabelle » May 30, 2012 09:02

Thank you for your advices :)
I think I will go for MCL1 and MoF1 for the next time.

I understand your argument Pweet, but i'm bored of dex2... Played it after I respeced to get purge3, and know I have it again, I do not want to change it anymore as I mostly play in duo/trio no necessarily with druid.
Or maybe I should use charge dex/qui and go dex2?

Btw, I think i will take Mof1, MCL1 and then SOS2, waiting for AM2 with respec :)

[edit]: Hmm, I just take a loot on my RPs, in 20k rps, I would be able to get all you say Cait:
Purge3,
Dex2 (if I respec),
LW1,
MoF1,
MoC1,
MCL1,
SOS1,
Sere2.

Maybe it worths it...

[edit2]: You cannot say that the "classic" bard spec 47-43-16 is the fail way to spec. It's the better way to learn how to play a bard in grp imo (nice ae mezz, you're an interupto bot). In smallmen or duo/trio, I totally agree you, but in fg, I don't count the number or fg I strike mezzed with this ae.

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Postby pweet » May 30, 2012 09:28

in small men there is no way u dont take sos2, it s an i win ra there.

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Postby Nef Melody » May 30, 2012 13:02

I highly recommend to take this spec fabu :)
You want some reasons for not going 47 music ?

instant AE mezz -> an ae mezz opener can be nice, still, the best way is to loop back at incs (if you don't have a lucky side inc. If you inc from the side, insta single mezz the stickleader or dd charge him to let him loose the speed -> boxmezz pretty often), turn endu on, come back and work your way up to the front.
You will really often hit all of their tanks = free immunity on zerkers/mercs,pala,warri etc...
You can not heal (not that bards would heal often in 8v8, but sometimes it's the difference between a loss and a win, not even mentioning smallmen here)
Your Purple AE mezz takes way way way more mana than the yellow one, you will run out of mana ridiculously fast if you rupt alot.
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Postby Fabulabelle » May 30, 2012 13:04

Hmm, if a druid incants a heal, does it stop the SOS?

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Postby Nef Melody » May 30, 2012 13:05

Fabulabelle wrote:Hmm, if a druid incants a heal, does it stop the SOS?


no, only offensive abilities stop sos
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Postby Fabulabelle » May 30, 2012 13:08

Ok, so to Summarize, at 6L5 (inc very soon), I have two choices according to your advices:

Pweet:
- LW1
- Dex2
- Moc1
- Purge3
- Sos2

Cait:
- LW1
- Dex2
- Sere2
- Mcl1
- Mof1
- Moc1
- Purge3
- Sos1

Tbh, I think I will choose the 2nd choice, cause mana is important.

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Postby Ino » May 30, 2012 13:27

Nef Melody wrote:
Fabulabelle wrote:Hmm, if a druid incants a heal, does it stop the SOS?


no, only offensive abilities stop sos


and cure disease, special uthgard feature olol

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Postby Fabulabelle » May 30, 2012 13:35

Nef Melody wrote:You want some reasons for not going 47 music ?
Your Purple AE mezz takes way way way more mana than the yellow one.

Purp ae mezz costs 27 pp, yellow one costs only 23 pp. This difference is really important?

Btw, if I only go for 37 music, the level of the spell will be lvl 40 with mof1, no risk for more resists?? mof2 = +9level, which bring the ae mezz at lvl 46, maybe better? Btw, I was not spec 47 music until around my 5L5, but the instant ae mezz with 350 radius is really magic :'( I'm afraid to loose it now :D

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Postby pweet » May 30, 2012 13:36

and demezz and cure poison :D
instant mezz is bad for ur skill, like moc3 8)

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Postby Fabulabelle » May 30, 2012 13:49

pweet wrote:instant mezz is bad for ur skill, like moc3 8)

TRUE :!:

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Postby Ino » May 30, 2012 14:24

Fabulabelle wrote:Btw, if I only go for 37 music, the level of the spell will be lvl 40 with mof1, no risk for more resists?? mof2 = +9level, which bring the ae mezz at lvl 46, maybe better?


I'm 37 music without any MoF atm.
Resists arent really a problem, because i mostly use ae-mezz either on fight-beginning (if enemies dont split too much) or for rupting during fights.

Sometimes i got some resists chains on single-mezz, but i guess thats a special uthgard feature again :lol:

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Postby Nef Melody » May 30, 2012 15:30

Fabulabelle wrote:
pweet wrote:instant mezz is bad for ur skill, like moc3 8)

TRUE :!:


I can upload some videos that show how moc3 just wins a whole fight.
And a well timed single mezz is 100 times better than any random ae mezz, so there is no reason to go for the higher ae at all.
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